Star Ocean 5 Devs Alter Female Attire, Fearing Backlash From Western Feminists

It’s a strange time we live in where developers in other countries fear what they put into their games for fear of making the feminists in the West angry. It’s even more strange that feminism is now something that is synonymous with censorship and cultural fear.

As silly as it sounds, the new-wave of feminism and the accompanying act of Social Justice Warring is now having an effect on Japanese game developers. Niche Gamer picked up and translated the story from an interview that 4Gamer conducted with Star Ocean 5’s character designer Akira Yasuda, director Hiroshi Ogawa, and producer Shuichi Kobayashi.

The three developers took turns answering questions about the upcoming Star Ocean 5: Integrity and Faithlessness, explaining why they modified some things, how they designed some characters, and how they had to cover up the 18-year-old Miki in the game due to fear of backlash from Western feminists and SJWs.

Producer Shuichi Kobayashi explained that…

“Recently, there’s been a lot of flak from overseas countries saying that if you put teens in ‘sexual’ underwear it’s not good,” […] “So we increased the amount of clothing.”

Kobayashi could be referencing Monolith Soft making changes to Xenoblade Chronicles X, as well as the backlash that Koei Tecmo received over the character Marie Rose. In the former’s case the developers put more clothes on the character; in the latter case, Koei Tecmo simply refused to release Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 in the U.S., or Europe due to the gender politics in the West.

As for the actual change, they basically put the character Miki on larger underwear. You can see the differences below.


As you can see in the second image, the undergarments on Miki offers more… coverage.

On the Esuteru blog, the Japanese users joked about her now wearing a diaper. The whole thing has turned into a meme in Japan already. Censored Gaming also did a quick video highlighting the incident.

Panties Have Been Censored In Star Ocean 5

It has been revealed that the Star Ocean 5 Integrity & Faithlessness’ 18 year old Miki Sauvester has had her panties censored in all regions due to Western controversy regarding sexual depictions of teen females. ================================= Check the playlist out for more Uncensored News!

Not all hope is lost, though.

Redditor Ryanofthestars put together a #GamerGate operation similar to #TorrentialDownpour to help spread the word that gamers are not keen (or kind) about having their games censored by people who don’t even play video games. You can join the operation by visiting the thread on Kotaku in Action.

In a separate translation from Ryan, he notes in the 4Gamer interview that director Hiroshi Ogawa expressed that it was a real shame that they had to censor Miki and that he felt bad about it.

However, for those of you worried about the mage Fiore, they didn’t touch her (yet). In fact, her outfit, her curves and her voluptuousness is what landed them a Cero C rating for those 15 and older in Japan. It sounds like they’re going to stick to their guns with Fiore, but Miki fell to the unwavering hand of censorship this time around. And yes, the censorship is worldwide… happening in both the Eastern and Western versions of Star Ocean 5.

Star Ocean 5 is due for release this summer on the PS4 in the West.

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65 thoughts on “Star Ocean 5 Devs Alter Female Attire, Fearing Backlash From Western Feminists

  1. I still think the reason JP devs are so spooked about being bullied by the West is because of the Western mainstream media coverage of Gamergate (ie. the bullshit narrative that men bully women out of gaming and treat them as sex objects), and incidents like Kotaku’s Schreier bullying Vanillaware, and Polygon scoring Bayonetta 2 down for having breasts.

    I’ve probably said this before:
    Back when Gamergate started, I checked Japanese articles and forums to see what they thought of the whole thing, and whether they were getting the right info. Sadly, they mostly cited the Western mainstream media coverage.

    1. This a thousand million billion times.

      It’s gotten to the point where they are censoring games because of what they read Kotaku said about what gamers said.
      That is the route to the worst case scenario, and it’s all due to the dumbest of misunderstandings.

      The poor japanese actually believe our corrupt media speaks for our community, they seem to believe every forgeign is on board with the sjw program, hell, they might even be aware there is an sjw agenda or a massive rift between the media and the people.

      Fixing that problem should be number 1 priority now.

      1. With any luck, the sales numbers on imports of Dead or Alive might at least get their attention enough to reconsider what western gamers actually want.

        Even in that best case scenario, the ultra puritan and regressive western gaming media is going to remain a grungy filter to the voice of the western gaming community. There is barely any sort of system of direct communication between gamers and developers in the west. There is none whatever between western gamers and developers in Japan or other Asian countries.

    2. The Japanese still haven caught on that Youtube coverage is more widely respected by their western audiences, so they think that sites like Kotaku still hold some major sway

      1. Sadly Kotaku does hold major sway. They’re the reach between enthusiast media and mainstream press. Look at what happened with the “Gamers are Dead” articles and how sites like Polygon and Kotaku leading the charge had mainstream press eating of their hands?

        It’s a terrible thing to admit, but until the major agenda-pushers are knocked down a peg or other enthusiast sites gain as much prominence (likely Niche Gamer) sites like Kotaku will still hold some form of power over the industry, sad as that may seem.

    3. … it wasn’t a bullshit narrative though. Gamergaters did/do bully women out of gaming and treat them as sex objects. That is literally the ONLY truthful and accurate thing that has been consistent about Gamergate.

      1. Gamergaters did/do bully women out of gaming and treat them as sex objects.

        I’m sure there are some links with evidence to back this up not from Gawker, Buzzfeed or Vox, right?

      2. Gawker, Buzzfeed or Vox[…]?

        Those three? Hey, go for it — you do you.

        But Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, and personal mail inboxes were the heaviest hit.

        The only bullshit narratives involved in GG harassment was the narrative by the harassers that they didn’t harass. They’re about as honest as Holocaust deniers… and if I had to guess, those two groups could probably make a pretty tight Venn Diagram.

      3. But Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, and personal mail inboxes were the heaviest hit.

        If that’s the case then there should be irrefutable records of this where the hashtag was used to harass and send threats to people. You should be able to at least link to some of these (even if they are from Gawker, Buzzfeed or Vox). There’s no such thing as some organized harassment campaign against women taking place exclusively online and NO ONE has any documented records of it actually happening other than hearsay.

      4. Well, as fun as it always is to see men (both online and off) imperiously send orders from their [imaginary] thrones that women should go collect, gather, enumerate, and deliver in a freshly-woven wicker basket all facts that they themselves could have collected if they had access to a computer, I am going to have to respectfully decline your commands.

        Mind you, if you’ll note my disqus byline, I DO provide research for a fee. I would need the email address where you use PayPal, send you my bill first, then compile the work that you seem allergic to doing yourself (I think we both know you are pretending that you aren’t aware of the sick levels of abuse GGers have put innocent men and women through), and then and ONLY then would I begin the search for you. I am not your employee, and I know that being a male you may instantly believe that all females are thereby your subordinate, but no, caveman, no.

        If, however, you’re on a budget, I could recommend Womansplainer.com. She charges a fraction of my fees.

      5. Well, as fun as it always is to see men (both online and off) imperiously send orders from their [imaginary] thrones

        Correction, it’s a leather chair. It’s rather comfortable, too.

        deliver in a freshly-woven wicker basket all facts that they themselves could have collected if they had access to a computer, I am going to have to respectfully decline your commands.

        Well, I’m gender agnostic when it comes to asking for facts. I was asked a couple of times “Why haven’t you reported on GamerGate’s harassment toward women?” I responded with “Sure, send me some evidence and I’ll write an article about it.”

        I’m not in the business of going on a wild goose chase to disprove a negative. So if #GamerGate is a harassment campaign, the onus is on the claimant o prove it so.

        (I think we both know you are pretending that you aren’t aware of the sick levels of abuse GGers have put innocent men and women through)

        No, I’m really dense when it comes to facts. If I don’t believe the facts don’t exist or have not encountered them in some kind of archival form of evidence then I simply do not believe the claims exist. Sorry, but I’m jaded enough to believe most of everyone is a liar until proven otherwise.

        I am not your employee, and I know that being a male you may instantly believe that all females are thereby your subordinate, but no, caveman, no.

        You may as well bring out the whip and a list of safe words if you treat all males like that.

      6. OK, then this correction to your misguided correction: your supposedly rather comfortable leather chair is the imaginary throne I was talking about. You’ve all got one, and too many of you think that others are only put on earth to do your fancy book-learnin’ for you.

        TL;DR: I can explain it for you, but I can’t understand it for you.

  2. Are there even solid numbers showing that the SJW’s are the audience that would buy these games? If not why worry. I seriously doubt they would be buying the games even after they implemented their “justice.”

    1. Doubtful. The SJW’s had their chance to support a game made for them by some fellow “Warriors” in Sunset. It was heavily praised within SJW gaming media so they knew about it yet on a meagre budget, it still failed commercially with around 4000 sales in 1 month and ended up sinking the developer.

      They can’t be buying games en masse if Sunset is anything to go by.

  3. why cave with the underwear if they are going to stick their guns with the half naked wizard ?

    you cant negotiate with SJW, if you give an inch they take 50 miles

  4. This is self-censorship coming from a JAPANESE developer even BEFORE any SJWs/feminists have made any significant complaints. Even the EASTERN version gets censored in order to pander to and appease these absolute fucking pieces of shit.

    I’m speechless.

    The problem here is the things that are being censored. You see, feminists play a clever game where they censor very small and trivial things (i.e. sexy women or in this case, cute panties) that does not affect the functionality of the game or the game-play at all.

    So when people complain of the censorship, they can simply say that they didn’t change how the game plays and/or they didn’t take away the game. You know, the “WE JUST WANT WOMEN TO BE RESPECTED” bullshit (funny how they don’t seem to mind topless Dante, Yaoi or the guys in speedos in DOA5…)

    Also, the other problem are the neutrals, dudebros and trolls. They will just say that it’s “trivial and does not affect the game” or “ha ha ha sad otaku weeaboos got their tits/booty taken away” or “you must be so sad that this bothers you”… all these comments do nothing but help the SJWs and feminists.

    SJWs and feminists may seemingly appear to be bigoted, ignorant, thin-skinned and mindless retards, but they’re clever alright. How else do you think Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn got the backing of the mainstream media and made it all the way to the UN?

    1. “ha ha ha sad otaku weeaboos got their tits/booty taken away”

      I’ve actually gotten into it quite a few times with fools that make such statements. I’m not a fan of anime or hentai and up until the recent Senran Kagura game, I haven’t purchased any pervy Japanese games but what these idiots fail to see is today it might be DOAX but tomorrow it’s going all the way up to porn.

      You’re right, the small wins will always lead to bigger attempts and sitting idly by whilst they slowly chip away at everything sexualised will eventually catch up to you regardless of your sexual interests/kinks.

      And you can bet your ass the dudebros will whine like bitches when their Milf porn no longer exists!

      1. I’m hoping all this SJW/feminist nonsense is nothing more than just a phase for a few years.

        Porn is a multi-million (or billion?) dollar industry, so I don’t think they will be able to touch that in the end, because at the end of the day, money is what matters to producers/creators.

        However, I do agree that they’re getting somewhere with the ‘chipping’, the question is how far will it get? Nowhere I hope.

        If a wealthy GamerGate ShitLord threw enough money into Blizzard’s/Nintendo’s/Lionhead Studio’s/etc. faces you can bet that they’ll put the censored content back in and find an excuse for it… I think.

      2. The Porn industry in America has bigger revenues than the NFL, NBA, and the MLB combined. That’s how big it is.

        Also, there’s already SJWs making inroads with feminist porn but it’s sooooo boring. Think of it cable TV’s softcore porn with even more dialogue and less budget.

      3. Also, there’s already SJWs making inroads with feminist porn

        How do you mean by inroads?

        If SJWs/feminists are making their own porn as an ‘extra category’ then that is perfectly fine.

        However, if they’re trying to dictate and change what all porn should be then that is a problem and is completely unacceptable.

      4. Well, since they can’t change it, they’re actually making porn. That’s what I’m talking about inroads.

        Besides, feminists are always trying to dictate what porn should be.

      5. You might (hopefully) be right as far as porn goes. It WAS a 97 billion dollar industry (globally) in 2014. But here’s the thing, gaming was 91.5 billion.

        Money talks but we’ve seen them make inroads to varying degrees in gaming, watering down porn to softcore feminist shit (have you seen that “face only” porn? *shudders*) is something they’ll surely attempt next if they can water down enough games.

        I do ultimately think all this nonsense will blow over eventually and things will slowly go back to normal but anything is possible at this point.

      6. Btw, when did you turn into an optimist? 😛

        The meter goes up and down.

        The Senran Kagura, DOAX3 sales, Play-Asia, Huniecam Studio, etc. news raised it for like a week or so, but then it came crashing back down when Blizzard and now tri-Ace committed the indefensible.

  5. Ever wonder what Fiore (the mage/sorceress) would look like if they did censor her design? Using my average photoshop skills, here it is…

    And don’t anybody dare say it looks better than the uncensored one! XD

  6. Yeah let’s fear a backlash from dbags who don’t even play theses games, and move to make them instead of our loyal fans happy.

    The sooner everyone (especially JP devs) realize our western gaming media is mostly sh!t and not to be trusted/believed, the better off our games will be.

    1. This is the result of decades of ignoring them. You know, when we were told to “just ignore them and they’ll go away”.

      I hope these people enjoy their feminist turd sandwiches now.

    1. To be honest… the SJW one you made doesn’t actually look bad, lol. But obviously the original is the one that turns heads and will likely land Fiore in the history books.

  7. Gamers that don’t want censorship aren’t the only ones that exist, there are actually plenty of us who support censorship but we aren’t as loud as those against it.

      1. please respond when you can make a valid argument without making assumptions to my character… I’m not even a feminist, I just want great games like this to be available to all audiences as a gamer.

      2. This is the Internet, and because as strangers, we all don’t know each other personally. So we can only judge on what people say at first. And what you originally said is exactly the same crap that comes out of SJWs and feminists rear ends.

        And I hate to break it to you, but panty shots and boobs does not mean “keeping women out of gaming” and “not available to all audiences”.

        Women are allowed to buy and play the game. Children are allowed to play the game.

        However I will half-give you the ‘THINK OF THE CHILDREN!’ thing. There is the idea of a password-protected ‘SJW Mode’ filter option that’s been banded around, which as the name suggests – filters out and makes the game completely free of anything that offends the SJWs and feminists. This filter should make it appropriate for the children as well. Overall, this idea would mean that EVERYONE wins…

        … Unfortunately when this idea is brought up to the SJWs/feminists, they are quick to disagree and slam it down. That speaks volumes about their character, as it’s nothing more than a case of ‘if i personally hate it then no-one else can get to have it and enjoy it’ mentality.

        And lastly – what about the people who love this kind of thing (panty-shots, boobs, etc.), even if it’s just icing on the cake? Taking away/censoring the stuff out doesn’t sound very diverse or making it “available to all audiences” to me…

        But panty shots and boobs “keeping women out of gaming”? Sorry, but that’s complete and utter bullshit, and it’s EXACTLY the excuse SJWs and feminists peddle.

        Maybe we should censor guns, knives and cigars from video games for the children too? After all these are more harmful. Oh wait, feminists aren’t bothered about those…

      3. Do guys like seeing a half dressed guy on screen? that’s more where I am seeing it from… I wouldn’t mind if they did something like have the regular uncensored then an all ages that is not just the uncensored cut up, that’s wishful thinking though…I like what Key does with their Visual Novels, even though some of their games start as eroge they also make all ages versions that aren’t cut up but rather redone with younger and female audiences in mind. The only reason I resort to supporting censorship is because most developers are too lazy too want to do that or simply don’t have the time. And there should be more age restrictions, Neptunia Action Unleashed should be MA and require age filters on Steam. It would be cool to have a version of the game that doesn’t make me feel creepy or awkward though…once again wishful thinking though…*Sigh*

      4. Do guys like seeing a half dressed guy on screen? that’s more where I am seeing it from

        A vast majority of male characters are depicted as handsome, whom a lot are often topless with perfectly chiselled muscled physiques.

        This depiction style of male hero characters has been happening for decades in video games.

        And all throughout, male gamers have never complained or whined about this. Which tells you that guys are not bothered about half-dressed guys on the screen.

        As I said before in my other post, the ‘SJW Mode’ filter option would sort out all the ‘problems’. But SJWs don’t want this. They want everything they dislike completely removed from a game.

        Censorship of any kind in a video game is unacceptable, because it means that something someone likes is being taken away.

      5. I see where you are coming from, never knew guys were so accepting of it but I am a girl after all so I don’t really understand it.

        I think the SJW mode would be great though but with a different name, That would be good enough for me if it can happen.

      6. A bit long, but see, that’s the thing. There are two responses to these sorts of issues.

        Say your not very into the panty shots or whatever, like I am, and were to voice your concerns. “If element x wasn’t in the game I’d like it more or would consider buying it.” For other examples see people complaining about no difficulty options in hard games, micro-transactions in some games, etc, etc.

        The company response would either be

        1. We’re making a specific game for a specific audience and if it isn’t for you sorry.
        or
        2. Actually we have gotten a lot of concerns and have decided to add a mode/feature to allow for those with this issue to play the way they want.

        The sane response is
        1. “Oh that’s a shame maybe I’ll try later/when its on sale/or not/ or whatever.
        2. Oh really! Awesome! I’ll strongly consider the game now.

        The extremist response in either case is
        1/2. “NO! That’s not good enough!

        The company should either stick to their guns or accommodate other gamers while not removing things from their existing fanbase.

        The fans with complaints should either try to understand the reason to keep the product as is but decline to buy or play the product and move on or be delighted their preference is being considered and move on.

      7. Not to sound too much like an SJW… half naked Chiseled “playable” male characters are intended to empower the presumed male player, meanwhile half naked sexy sometimes playable female characters are intended to titillate the again presumed male player.

      8. Then I guess the nicely featured male character can work both for titillation and power fantasy! Sweet two birds. I was responding mostly to the previous statement that men never complained about the sexy male characters and while men are definitely the more stoic sex so complaining isn’t likely to happen anyway. I just wanted to point out the handling of the usually playable hot male character (in general) isn’t likely to get complaints because it usually appeals better to all audiences….male gamers and grumpy feminists included.

      9. Female gamers get titillated by handsome male characters too. Topless Dante? Cloud? Putting the males in speedos in DOA5? All designed to appeal to fangirls, especially the latest Final Fantasy cast.

        Yes you can argue that there’s supposedly “more” fanservice for males, but regardless of the amount, it doesn’t alter the fact that there IS fan-service material intended for females as well.

        You also have to remember that females are more quiet about this kind of thing as well (flicking off to hot male characters, etc.).

        Not to sound too much like an SJW…

        Actually, you sound exactly like an SJW / feminist (probably more of a white-knight) there because what you have said is their EXACT excuse for justifying hypocrisy and double-standards when it comes to “sexual objectification” of men. You know, the bullshit ‘IT’S A MALE POWER FANTASY!!’ excuse before they go back to flicking themselves off to Yaoi or Cloud.

        meanwhile half naked sexy sometimes playable female characters are intended to titillate the again presumed male player

        Like I said above, there is material that’s intended to titillate females as well.

        Therefore any feminist / SJW complaints of boobs, booty and panty-shots BUT completely ignoring the square jaws, abs, pecs and six-pacs is quite simply hypocritical in my opinion.

      10. I’m in complete agreement. Feminists are all about double standards. I also think that at this point anyone should be able to find a game that appeals to their own sensibilities, and leave the games that you don’t agree with alone. I despise this notion that ALL video games have to change to fit these moral crusaders. The whole premise is this ridiculous idea that somehow we’re exploiting fictional women and also somehow magically that causes the exploitation of real people.

        However I do also think the argument that feminists can’t complain about sexy female characters because they don’t complain (and also we don’t complain) about sexy male characters is a poor one, because as you freely admitted there are certainly more sexy female characters. Sexy characters are usually handled differently if they are male or female. The sexy male characters are often portraying strength to the audience, while only sometimes do the female characters do that. (please do not send a list of counter-examples I’m well aware of a long history of strong, playable AND sexy female characters)

        I think ultimately we can find better ways of showing the hypocrisy of this type of repressed feminist position. This has been pointed out before and they don’t care.

      11. However I do also think the argument that feminists can’t complain about sexy female characters because they don’t complain (and also we don’t complain) about sexy male characters is a poor one, because as you freely admitted there are certainly more sexy female characters.

        That’s a market fallacy right there. There’s more sexy females because there are more young males buying those kind of games.

        It’s the equivalent of young sexy males on soap operas being very prevalent (and topless) to appeal to the female audience. Of course the content is measured to (theoretically) appeal to that audience.

        There are games that have sexy males or sexualized male tropes but they just haven’t sold as well, which is why we don’t see them as often.

        Sexy characters are usually handled differently if they are male or female. The sexy male characters are often portraying strength to the audience, while only sometimes do the female characters do that.

        That’s because men and women are different. Men are generally attracted to women who show feminine sexuality, in the same vein men usually like to embody men who they feel women would be attracted to.

        Again, this goes back to the market… people are essentially complaining about what young males like because young males spend a lot of money to like those things. When we look at this from a capitalists perspective it’s downright absurd.

        Obviously there are more males buying products where they play males they like to embody, and females they find attractive. The object isn’t to take this away to bring a balance, but to highlight the fact that a majority of females just aren’t into those products in the same way that young males are.

        Females, as market data as provably shown, prefer mobile games and clicker games on Facebook. Females spend more on casual games on mobile devices than men, and prefer puzzle games and social games to a large degree (based on general statistics, this obviously doesn’t apply to all female gamers).

        I think ultimately we can find better ways of showing the hypocrisy of this type of repressed feminist position.

        Point to the market argument. I’ve shut up ALL of them once it’s pointed out that the games they want already exist (e.g., Belladonna, Lily Looking Through, Remember Me, Sunset, etc.,) but they just don’t sell as well as the games they hate. Instead of tackling the topic from a position of gender politics, attack it from a position of capitalism. They have no response.

      12. However I do also think the argument that feminists can’t complain about sexy female characters because they don’t complain (and also we don’t complain) about sexy male characters is a poor one, because as you freely admitted there are certainly more sexy female characters. Sexy
        characters are usually handled differently if they are male or female. The sexy male characters are often portraying strength to the audience, while only sometimes do the female characters do that.

        Disagree.

        I do not accept the ‘IT HAPPENS TO WOMEN MORE SO WE GET THE RIGHT TO CRY ABOUT IT’ mentality. That’s a really feminist and mangina-esque attitude.

        Sexy male characters, like you say, more so intends to portray strength and power to the audience. But like I said in a previous post, there are still fan-girls treating these characters as fap material and flicking off them.

        An example of this are characters like Cloud from Final Fantasy. This game series is well-known for having a cast of males that appeals to and gives nose-bleeds to females. Not to mention other various J-RPGS.

        So at the end of the day, no matter how much “more” it happens to women, it is still double-standards and hypocrisy to complain about it happening to females, YET completely ignoring the fact that it happens to males as well.

        You’ll hate me for this, but I would also argue that a woman’s biggest strength and power is her physical beauty and sexuality. 😉

      13. You won’t stop the feminists from crying about… well everything really. The only thing you can do is keep your arguments top notch and know your audience. The person complaining that fictional women are being treated as eye candy isn’t going to care that “some” women get off to fictional men.

      14. You won’t stop the feminists from crying about… well everything really

        Absolutely. And under the First Amendment, feminists have every right to say whatever they want. Free speech for all.

        The person complaining that fictional women are being treated as eye
        candy isn’t going to care that “some” women get off to fictional men.

        I absolutely know that. That’s why like you say, I have to bring a good, solid argument to the table to keep them at bay.

        Also, why “some” in quotes Shay? Women get off to fictional men, it’s a fact. Ever seen the behaviour of Twilight and Yaoi fan-girls? 🙂

    1. censorship makes games more available to women and children. Shouldn’t we as gamers want a wider audience to enjoy games like this?

      The fault in this lies in the fact that diminishing what brought an audience to a product in the first place is the best way to get rid of that audience altogether.

      It’s like when the WWE turned PG, and then they lost all their TV-14 audience. Now they’re only doing half of what they were doing back in the late 90s. Was censoring the content and making it more widely available to women and kids the sort of thing that widened the audience? No, it didn’t.

      In the case of games, setting trends to diminish their content for the “greater good” or “broader appeal” usually only does the opposite, like what EA did with Dead Space 3, making it less scary, more action packed and tossing in co-op to make it like Gears of War. Sales died, the series died.

      Tailored content to attract a wider audience doesn’t always equal gaining a wider audience.

      1. Good games back in the day didn’t need all of the fanservice and people loved them even without all of the blood and gore…I honestly miss the days of the old Final Fantasy from 5-9. Games just aren’t that original anymore and it feels like companies started hiding behind fancy graphics and fanservice at some point. I think we are too spoiled by the newer and more realistic graphics to see the other issues. Where is the high quality story telling, the emotional soundtracks, the fun yet relate-able characters, the varying landscapes, and the weeks of gameplay? We got all of that from many PS1 and PS2 games but of the couple hundred PS3 and newer games I have played at most they have only one or two of those qualities with only a small hand full of exceptions. Many new games feel cliche, repetitive, or underdeveloped in some ways. Human creativity has no limits but it seems many game developers care too much about time and money to spend time on making quality games like they used to, not to say all games back then were perfect. I have recently played games that really had potential but were released way too soon and were lacking key elements due to being released too soon.

      2. Good games back in the day didn’t need all of the fanservice and people loved them even without all of the blood and gore

        Ehhh… no.

        I just recently made a quip about this in the Shadow of the Beast article with an image of some characters from the game Messiah. We could NEVER have that kind of fan-service in a mainstream game today. It would be pelted to death with SJW rhetoric.

        You must be pretty young because the 1990s was rife with fan-service, rape, gore, blood, etc., etc., etc. Stuff they got away with back then, they can’t do that stuff these days. Outside of GTA you won’t really find interactive strippers in a game. In a lot of FPS titles back in the 1990s you had half naked and naked women in there galore.

        Most shooters were pretty gory trying to imitate DOOM. Point-and-click adventure games like Police Quest and Laura Bow dealt with some serious subject matter and weren’t afraid to show some skin at times. Heck, there was the entire Leisure Suit Larry series that was popular back then.

        Jill of the Jungle and Tomb Raider were also both known for their fan-service, and even the ads for Dungeon Keeper were extremely fan-service heavy. Almost all of the girls in Killer Instinct and Mortal Kombat were completely sexualized (compared Kim Wu back then to the very covered-up and feminist-friendly Kim Wu of today).

        Localized JRPGs in America had a lot of the fan-service censored but in Japan it was pretty out and about. The only really tame genre all the way around was probably the side-scrolling platformers, sports games (not including Mutant League) and kiddy games.

        I agree, though, that games back in the day were just better overall. I love them a lot and still play many to this day. Not only are games these days more censored and politically correct compared to games from the yesteryears (check out the original Dead to Rights or Dead 2 Rights) but they’re also shorter, more boring and I agree that a lot hide behind fancy graphics to mask lame, repetitive, boring gameplay.

      3. Absolutely 100% this.

        The SJW/feminist narrative and rhetoric has created such a Big Sister climate of fear that true freedom of expression and creativity has completely gone.

        This is especially the case in the fan-service department. When Western (Japanese as well now) developers design a female character, they now have to fear and prioritize to appease the SJW-feminist brigade by not depicting them in a so-called “negative” way. Perfectly fine for male characters to be depicted in every negative way of course.

        I also imagine now that developers have to watch the race issues as well, you know to make sure that no ‘minority’ is portrayed negatively. Perfectly fine for Caucasians to be portrayed in every negative way of course.

        It’s a complete disgrace, considering that video games and their characters are completely fictional.

  8. What a shame this clickbait title is no better than the article beneath it.

    What’s a bigger shame is that the title couldn’t have been more along the lines of “developers alter the female attire after realizing that women are actually human beings too and as such deserve as much respect and consideration as men”.

    Try seeing how long or even how willing guys would be to play games where they
    were forced to encounter all male characters in skimpy, smutty clothes
    like mesh tank tops and assless chaps. Yeah, that’s how all girls are forced to feel every time they want to buy or play a game.

    Stop acting like feminism has anything to do with this BENEFICIAL move. It is a financially wise idea to stop alienating half of the game-purchasing audience. All hail free choice AND Capitalism.

    1. Try seeing how long or even how willing guys would be to play games where they
      were forced to encounter all male characters in skimpy, smutty clothes

      But NO ONE is forced to play games where ALL the characters are like that. There’s a massive catalog of games starring female characters dressed and covered from head to toe, from Dex to Aegis Defenders to Belladonna. Why would you even say something like that?

      that’s how all girls are forced to feel every time they want to buy or play a game.

      Then don’t buy fan service games made for guys. Buy games for girls… they do exist.

      Stop acting like feminism has anything to do with this BENEFICIAL move. It is a financially wise idea to stop alienating half of the game-purchasing audience.

      Did it ever occur to you that games made for guys are made to appeal to them and that games (like Otome novels) made for women are made to appeal to them? It’s not to alienate a demographic but to cater to the tastes of a specific demographic.

      All hail free choice AND Capitalism.

      Great, so support games like Koihime Enbu, Melody’s Escape or the Tomb Raider reboots. There’s no reason to support the censorship of games that appeal to guys when no one is supporting the censorship of games that cater to women.
      Great, so buy games like

      1. Despite some peculiarly paranoid notions that either women and/or feminism have any power in the world, they really do not. (And it’s disturbing that the ONE crusade they have fought for — consent prior to sex — has been ridiculed as misandry, as though one must hate men if we expect them to not commit a class A felony by skipping the pursuit of consent first.) So it is ridiculous to try claiming that feminism-for-the-sake-of-feminism had a damned thing to do with “destroying” supposedly male-oriented games. There is such a thing as evolution, change, and conscience. This might possibly be why the imaginary females that you claim are being marketed toward male gamers are being updated to meet the current standard instead of backward Caveman standards.

        Again, if I am to dabble in your comparison, seeing female characters treated the way Cavemen desire seeing female characters treated would perhaps be akin to the males in supposedly female-oriented games being kicked in the goods and ridiculed for small units. Maybe the more she kicks his goods, the higher her score goes, and if she mocks him and makes his character cry, she gets bonus levels, and so on.

        ^^^ If that happened (which it never would and never could, because men are the only ones in control, but let’s pretend for a moment the world was opposite for a moment), do you think that would be any different from what you are defending? If you would even say, “I must stay out of it, because those thousands of intentionally misandrist games are marketed to people other than my demographic”, then OK. But remember, games as egregious as the ones I just fabricated would have real-world consequences — specifically, the more often girls “get rewarded” for thinking of men’s goods as punching bags, the less girls would consider men human. And that is the issue you are having with current games. But with men dehumanizing women, rather than the ridiculous other way around. For you to consider my fictitious games as misandrist, please understand that you are currently defending misogyny-for-the-sake-of-misogyny. It wouldn’t need feminism to tell you that; it only takes a conscience and a recognized change in society.

      2. If that happened (which it never would and never could, because men are the only ones in control, but let’s pretend for a moment the world was opposite for a moment), do you think that would be any different from what you are defending?

        No it would not be any different because that game you described DOES exist, it’s called Balls Kicking Simulator 2016 and I even wrote about it and linked to the Greenlight page:
        https://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2016/01/balls-kicking-simulator-2016-has-some-greenlight-gamers-protesting-junkware/

        For you to consider my fictitious games as misandrist, please understand that you are currently defending misogyny-for-the-sake-of-misogyny.

        I don’t consider your example misandrist because kicking guys in the balls is not misandrist. I did it all the time in the game Vendetta and the first two Mortal Kombat games as Johnny Cage (back when Jean-Claude Van Damme was my hero). Nice straw man though.

        And I don’t condone misandry anymore than I condone misogyny, which is to say that I don’t support or condone either.

        And that is the issue you are having with current games. But with men dehumanizing women, rather than the ridiculous other way around.

        Only someone with an extreme case of low self worth would believe that any depiction of a fictional woman confidently displaying her cleavage or wearing scant clothing in a game would see that as men dehumanizing women as opposed to humans in general celebrating the female form as an exquisite work of art.

      3. Only someone with an extreme case of low self worth would believe […]
        No. Only someone whose hero was once Jean-Claude VanDamme could have created such an absurdly faulty psychological profile like the one you just did.

        In the future, you might have lead with that.

      4. In the future, you might have lead with that.

        That doesn’t disprove anything I wrote, though. Heck, some of the most clicked through ads on this site and most purchased items are of buxom female video game characters. If men hated women so much they certainly wouldn’t spend $300 to have a finely crafted statue of them on their shelf. So far, no one has yet to order a Conan the Barbarian collectible… it’s like the majority of straight dudes prefer beautiful women over masculine men when it comes to appreciating art and sculptures.

      5. It may not have technically be what disproved what you wrote, but what you wrote was disprovable all on its own “merits”.

        As for your ludicrous lack of comprehension as to what constitutes lady-hate/misogyny… yes, purchasing non-realistic iconography of females (as well as purchasing sexual favors from less statuesque versions of females) would definitely rank very high on the misogyny scale. “I OWN YOU” is a powerful mantra, and it does not denote a sense of fairness or respect, in fact. You might as well have called antebellum slave owners Negrophiles. Because that’s your “logic” there.

        It was actually pretty fxcking funny, your accidental proving of my own point better than I could have done on my own. “Oh, we don’t hate women, in fact we masturbate to highly distorted images of them all the time, pfft!”

      6. You’re essentially saying any man who reveres the female form or — as you so eloquently put it — masturbates to women, are practicing some form of misogyny?

        Do you have any idea how distorted a world view that is? If a man loves a curvy woman and buys a statue so he gets to see her as often as possible, that’s not hate… that’s reverence.

        I have no idea where you get your world view from, but perpetuating gender divides really doesn’t help anyone.

      7. You’re essentially saying any man who reveres the female form […]
        ^^^No, I am not saying that, essentially nor otherwise. I am sure there is some Godwinesque “Law” that you’re breaking by taking a statement and pretending it extends in all directions rather than the sole direction I stated, so that you can start slinging more of your pearl-clutching at the worldviews you’re trying to force me to defend myself from even though I hold none such views. Again, we both know you can’t believe what you fabricated, and we both know you’re fxcking around rather than arguing your side responsibly. I am OK with that, because it’s not me who ends up looking worse when you do it.

        I was stating quite accurately that the majority of [heterosexual] misogynists find the female form arousing, and also that your “””””argument””””” (this whole post should be filled with scare quotes around that word) fails further when you try to insinuate “why would woman-haters pay to own women’s bodies and not yet pay to own a man’s body (Conan)? That doesn’t make sense!” That was either very ignorant of you, or you were satirizing an idiot very well… damnable Internet, it’s often difficult to tell without hearing a person’s actual tone.

        Regardless, I hate veering this far from topic without having someone’s PayPal address, so I will return to the original point: Times change, and men’s imperious sense of ownership of — and entitlement to — women’s bodies have been dangerously affecting the world for too many millennia. And just like your video-games have improved in graphics and processing speed and story lines (sometimes), it’s perhaps time for them to improve humanity-wise as well. This means that some smart developers will develop games without very, very literally dehumanizing females into nothing more than grotesque caricatures to be “revered”. I have had some guys try to convince me that eons of generations have trained men to see women as such subordinates (eye candy/arm trophy/heir incubator, etc.) and that no “true alpha” (lololol) will ever reduce his reign over women’s sole value of beauty.

        But that has only ever been society teaching lesser men that. And opinions evolve, fashions evolve, societies evolve. Ideally men can evolve too. It isn’t feminism “taking erections away from you because you’re men”, it is truly justice for society. “Pro-man” ought not mean “anti-woman”, and I know many would disagree and want to keep things anti-woman no matter what. Many think that is wrong; evolved people think it is wrong to do.

      8. it’s perhaps time for them to improve humanity-wise as well.

        They already have. Heck, Oregon Trail was one of the first edutainment titles back in the day, teaching kids about history while also entertaining them along the way. Edutainment never went away and various games like that and Mavis Beacon have always found their way into the classroom, like Minecraft Education Edition. More than anything you seem to be focusing just on games with content you don’t like, as opposed to the fact that a majority of games are already centered around catering to casual gamers.

        This means that some smart developers will develop games without very, very literally dehumanizing females into nothing more than grotesque caricatures to be “revered”.

        “Grotesque caricatures” is subjective. I personally don’t find the females from Dead or Alive to be very attractive but a lot of others do, just the same as some people don’t find guys with hulking muscles to be very attractive, but I think those characters are cool. Different taste for different folks. It’s not a “grotesque caricature” just because you don’t like the artist’s interpretation of the human body. Nor is it dehumanizing for people to appreciate those works given that people who would like to admire those kind of human figures can do so in the game.

        Do you find the Birth of Venus dehumanizing because it accentuates the female form and glorifies her beauty?

        I have had some guys try to convince me that eons of generations have trained men to see women as such subordinates (eye candy/arm trophy/heir incubator, etc.) and that no “true alpha” (lololol) will ever reduce his reign over women’s sole value of beauty.

        Yes, some men only value women for their looks. Some women only value men for their looks. Some men only value women for their money. Some women only value men for their money. Different strokes for different folks.

        Are you really going to attack that some girls only like One Direction because they fit their ideal for being visually appealing males? Or would you really attack the idea that many teenagers only liked Britney Spears or Pamela Anderson because of how they were visually presented? Because the same thing applies to video games and people finding characters appealing based on their tastes in what they consider to be attractive. It’s capitalism at work and if people don’t like something, they don’t buy it (like the game Sunset or the Devil May Cry reboot).

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