Dead Or Alive Xtreme 3 Now Available From Play-Asia For PS Vita, PS4

After a controversial latter-half of 2015 that saw Koei Tecmo embroiled in a culture war battle over their withholding of releasing Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 in the West due to the media’s clear bias toward Social Justice Warring and click-bait aimed at fueling outrage culture, Play-Asia and Koei Tecmo are proud to announce that the beach volleyball game is now available for the PlayStation Vita and the PlayStation 4.

Play-Asia sent out the press release to make it known that the Asia version of Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 is available with English translation handled internally, so you can play and enjoy the game on your PS Vita or PS4 without having to worry about Treehouse-tier localization affecting the game.

Play-Asia made it a point in the press release to point out that all of the content of the Japanese version have been retained in the Asia release and that nothing is censored or cut out.

As for Dead or Alive Xtreme 3… the game features beach volleyball just like the other two previous games in the series, along with the new hip wrestling mini-game where the girls must battle each other using their bums to knock their opponent into the water, as well as the new rope-pulling mini-game and rock-climbing mini-game.

I’m not exactly sure how the rock-climbing mini-game has any fail states because they always show so very little of it, but when they do showcase the mode it’s focused squarely on the assets of the climbers.

One thing they don’t mention in the press release is the new Gravure photo mode where you can outfit the girls in a wide variety of outfits and snap photos of them. I’m quite positive you’ll be able to share the photos with friends and family.

Another mode that had some fans excited was the casino mode. This mode wasn’t promoted very much but it definitely seems to be the one feature that could turn out to be a surprise hit, especially if there’s any multiplayer compatibility.

Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 is available right now for $49.99 on the PlayStation Vita and $59.99 on the PlayStation 4. You can import a copy from over on Play-Asia since North American retailers won’t be carrying it due to the media’s outrage over women wearing bikinis in video games. And if you really think that the whole media outrage thing is hyperbole, don’t forget how games journalists attacked and threatened Play-Asia for supporting the release of Dead or Alive Xtreme 3.

[Edit:] Alternatively you can pick up a physical copy of the game from Video Games Plus for the PS Vita and PS4. If you’re in the U.K., you can also grab copies from Rice Digital, which also has the Asia version in stock with the English translation for the PS Vita and PS4.

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36 thoughts on “Dead Or Alive Xtreme 3 Now Available From Play-Asia For PS Vita, PS4

  1. When my copy of Digimon Cybersleuth arrived from Play-Asia they packed in a huge sticker of Kasumi holding 2 vollyballs in front of her tits with the text are “ARE YOU BEACH BODY READY? #DOAX3”
    Play-Asia really has gone full shitlord on the SWJs lol.

    VG+ and Rice Digital also carry the English Asian version of the game btw.

    1. VG+ and Rice Digital also carry the English Asian version of the game btw.

      If I have time later I will search out their shop links and add them in the article.

      1. Yeah thats the one. The non sticker part around it also had some text emoji of 2 people playing vollyball and a thanks for the support blurb.

  2. Fellow gamers, even if you’re not interested in the game, stand up against the SJWs/feminists by buying it, supporting it, and supporting the developers Koei Tecmo.

    This is more than just a game. It is a statement against the SJW feminist PC-culture.

    DOAX3 is the kryptonite to SJWs and feminists. Let them eat it until they die.

    1. I believe Jed Whitaker of Destructoid has given the game a 1.5 out of 10, for the obvious reasons (yes, tits & ass).

      The mainstream gaming press needs a fucking purge, be burnt down and have it’s ashes pissed on.

      Worth an article this Billy?

      1. I’ll need to look through what the media are saying and get some choice quotes.

        But yeah, it’s likely worth an article just for the sake of posterity — having it on record that the SJWs really do hate and attack games that don’t match their values and the game companies who make them.

      2. LOLOLOL….

        Sjws are always complaining about the ads on this site, but it looks like maybe it’s because they’re trying to repress those age old feelings of puting hot dogs in buns.

    2. I didn’t have much interest in the game other than I like the DoA fighting series. When I read up on why it wasn’t coming to the west I definitely preordered a copy

    3. I bought DoAX3 and I’m a feminist. I want to support the game and KT but… I have mixed feelings about this comment lol. I think it’s generalizing feminists too much. There are plenty of sex positive feminists who aren’t upset by overt sexuality in video games.

      1. I think it’s generalizing feminists too much.

        Yet we do not see many of the so-called ‘real/good’ feminists speak out against the SJW-feminists. Not much effort is made to expose and call them out.

        I’m constantly told by “real feminists” that they largely outnumber the SJW/radical-feminists (the radicals are a minority apparently), so if the good feminists banded together and made a REAL effort to call them out the radicals would be wiped out in an instant.

        Yet the only type of feminists we see in the media, news outlets, magazines, TV, adverts, women’s organizations,etc. are the SJW radicals preaching down to all of us about how men are the evil and how laws need to be made to oppress men and take away everything that’s catered to men. And make everywhere a women’s space. Disagree with them and you’re somehow a “misogynist” and “sexist”.

        It’s clear as daylight that the “good feminists” deep down are secretly loving what the radicals are doing because it is getting and resulting in special privileges and dictatorship for women.

        Radicals and good feminists – different attitudes, but SAME GOALS at the end of the day.

        Why do feminists have to harass and shut down Men’s Issues meetings time and time again? Oh wait – “not all feminists are like that”, yes yes heard it all before.

        The “not all feminists are like that” line doesn’t wash with most people any more, because like I already said, we virtually NEVER see the so-called “good” feminists making much of an effort to expose and call out the radicals. The ones who do, like Hoff Sommers, are unicorns.

        The fact that feminists refuse to call themselves egalitarians pretty much says it all about them.

        And before you try – feminism does NOT mean egalitarianism. Glad to help.

        I realize that this is a video games site, so apologies to Billy for my long-winded post.

      2. I realize that this is a video games site, so my apologies to Billy for my long-winded post.

        Ha, there’s nothing on the site that says you can’t discuss topics that get shut down and censored elsewhere.

        It did annoy me at other places where people would break off into discussing tangentially related topics and a mod would come in and shut down the conversation. I always figured those kind of people were the kind that never got invited to parties and that was the reason they were so gleefully happy to intrude and shut down someone else’s conversation on a comment thread.

      3. I agree with some of your points, but don’t think we see eye to eye on others. On a certain level I think it’s a semantic disagreement, though.

        I do sometimes wonder if feminist is the right label for me or not. But if I had to pick a label, it feels like the closest one along that spectrum. But then, I also used to think I was an SJW. I thought, what’s wrong with Social Justic? It’s a good thing. And it is, but censoring games and harassing and shaming people for their hobby and tastes in entertainment is not social justice in any way.

        Because of the meaning it has acquired, I don’t think I am an SJW (I bought DOAX3, after all). But feminism is a bit more nuanced of an issue, because I do think femininity (not women, especially not in western societies) is undervalued. So, in that respect I am pro-femininity, for men and women. And that’s why I like the feminist moniker better than just egalitarian. I don’t like machismo and the kind of sayings people have like “man up” or doing “[x] like a girl” (pejorative). But I am not fully anti-SJW either, because I have seen that side of things get pretty toxic too (anti-LGBT stuff, genuine sexism, etc)

        Anyway, sorry for going off topic. I feel that we may have more we agree on than disagree on, but at least we can agree on one thing: let’s have fun playing Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 and not let the “SJW”s phase us 🙂

      4. what’s wrong with Social Justic? It’s a good thing. And it is

        Disagree for the most part. I think Social Justice operates on a follow-the-herd mentality, one-sided thinking, and encourages outrage mob-like behaviour. Not a good thing in my opinion.

        But I am not fully anti-SJW either, because I have seen that side of things get pretty toxic too (anti-LGBT stuff, genuine sexism, etc)

        The anti-SJW/LGBT/feminism has become like that because the SJWs and radical feminists have overstepped the fucking line.

        You know, the sexism against men? The racism against whites/Caucasians? #KillAllMen? The Male Tears mugs?

        If you want to blame someone for all the toxicity, blame it on Social Justice Warriors and the feminists of today. They are what caused it in the first place.

        but at least we can agree on one thing: let’s have fun playing Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 and not let the “SJW”s phase us 🙂

        Agreed. I prefer to play DOA5LR but yes I’ll be enjoying Nyotengu in DOAX3 for sure. =D

      5. Hmm.. My reply got detected as spam. I would be happy to re-write or delete it if it was objectionable, but I feel like it was a glitch in the Disqus commenting system. Let me know if I ran afoul of the rules somehow. Thanks 🙂

        Edit: and Nyotengu is cool, I like Kokoro more though :3

      6. Whoops. Looks like Disqus spam-trapped your comment. Don’t sweat it. I approved it manually and added you to the white-list. Must have been a link or something.

      7. Thank you. I figured it was a glitch, but wanted to make sure 🙂

        I think it may have actually been because I formatted my last quote incorrectly XD

  3. Damn, I mean it’s cool that there are some shops in the west selling the game but even if I have to pay customs, my PS4 copy from PlayAsia, which I’m eagerly awaiting, would still be cheaper than that.

  4. I’d get it if it was on PC or if buying a digital JP game and its DLC on vita was more straight forward, might still get it for PS4 if I ever get one
    It’s a game I really want but at the same time I’m never in a mood to go out of my way for just one game

  5. The reason you haven’t seen fail states is because they tend to show “Owner Mode” where you watch the girls doing stuff automatically. In “Girl Mode” you actually play as the girl of your choice.

    I can’t confirm the fail states for you, because my copy hasn’t arrived yet.

  6. I’m still on the fence about this, as much as it would send a message to Japanese devs, I’m not paying $80 AU for something I won’t enjoy. Maybe after a price drop.

    Although I have already sent a message by getting Senran Kagura Estival Versus which gets my full endorsement, not only is it pervy but the gameplay is a blast!

  7. I believe what happened is the anti-SJW people formed an unholy coalition with the traditional anti-LGBT and anti-feminist folk.

    You’re trying to separate SJWs from feminists aren’t you?

    The reason why the anti-SJW people have formed an alliance with the anti-feminism crowd is because the vast majority of people who make up SJWs are modern feminists.

    The whole ideology of Social Justice Warriors is mainly based on feminism ideology. Why else do you think that the number 1 thing that SJWs talk about is gender politics and the number 1 thing they always complain about is sexy women in bikinis?

    Modern feminism is right at the top of the list along with race issues in SJW ideology. That makes SJWs and feminists virtually the same to me.

    And I disagree for the most that the alliance between anti-SJWs and anti-feminists is an “unholy coalition”. It’s merely a form of defence against the status quo (feminism).

    Therefore the biggest unholy coalition is the SJWs/feminists alliance with the mainstream media, news outlets, academia and the government to screw over and piss on men and Caucasians. Not to mention indoctrinate children in schools about how men are the evil and women are the angels.

    saying that it is a backlash against the modern feminists is short sighted because the feminists were themselves a backlash against problems in the existing culture.

    “problems” for women in the Western society? Are you sure about that?

    1. From an early age the opposite sex will be instructed never to hit me but I may not be given the same instructions. However, should I strike males I can expect not to be hit back and any social penalties that occur from my actions will actually fall on the male.

    2. If I’m not smart, but pretty, I can marry and achieve the social and financial level of my husband without ever working.

    3. I can produce offspring. A status which grants me an “essential” status in our species that men can never have and which can never be taken away from me even in old age.

    4. Regardless of my mate value society has organized fertility clinics and social welfare programs that will allow me to have children and provide for them should I choose to reproduce without a mate or marriage.

    5. I not only have the more valuable and sought after sexual identity, but I also have complete control over my reproductive choice and in many ways over the reproductive choice of the opposite sex.

    6. At any time I can abandon my parental responsibilities with little or no social stigma and hand the child over to the state or abort the pregnancy. A male could never relieve himself of this burden unless I allow him to.

    7. I am granted all the rights of a democracy without any of the burdens of military service.

    8. At age 18 I lose the protective status of the child but retain the protective status of the female. Boys at age 18 lose the protected status of the child and become targets if they fail to gain status after that point.

    9. When I marry a man with status I can take his name and become whoever he has spent years becoming. I need not do anything special to be worthy of receiving the reputation he has built. However, if I wish to keep my own name I can do so. Should my husband feel the sting of this insult I can simply call him a sexist for it.

    10. People will help me more when I’m in need and I will receive no social penalty or stigma for it.

    11. When I’m on a date things will be paid for me.

    12. When I search for employment I can choose jobs which I think are fulfilling without concern of whether they provide a “family” wage.

    13. I can discriminate against the opposite sex ruthlessly without social penalty.

    14. If I marry and quit my job and enjoy a leisurely life with light housework and then later divorce I will be given half of the marital assets.

    15. If I commit a crime and am convicted I will get a sentencing “discount” because of my gender. If I am very pretty it will increase my discount.

    16. If I am a partner in crime with a man I will likely be charged with lesser crimes even though I committed the same crimes even if I was the ringleader.

    17. I have the option to be outraged if my husband asks me if my behavior is due to PMS and later on use PMS as a successful legal defense for murdering that same husband.

    18. At age 18 I will not be forced to register for Selective Service and will not be penalized for failing to do so.

    19. At a time of war I will never be drafted and ripped from my employment, home, and family and forced to become a military slave.

    20. My feelings are more important than men’s lives. Every precaution will be made to protect me from harassment at work. However, males will make up nearly %100 of workplace fatalities.

    21. My gender controls 80% of domestic spending. We get to spend our money if we have any and we get to spend men’s money.

    22. The majority of luxury apparel is designed, marketed to, and consumed by women.

    23. Seven times as much jewellery will be purchased by or for me than by or for men.

    24. I have a department of women’s health whereas men have no such department.

    25. My gender enjoys more government spending on health than males do.

    26. My gender consumes the lioness’ share of entitlement programs while men contribute the lion’s share of taxes.

    27. If I rape or molest a child I can expect lighter treatment in court and afterwards receive less social stigma. What’s more, should I become pregnant, I can sue my victim for child support when he finally turns 18.

    28. When I divorce my husband I will be guaranteed custody of my children unless I am deemed to be unfit. Even if my husband is “Parent of the Year” 10 years running it is unlikely he will get custody over me even if I am a mediocre parent.

    29. When I divorce I can use false accusations of domestic violence, sexual molestation of the children or abuse of the children to gain advantage during court proceedings. If I am found out to be a liar I can expect to get away with it.

    30. If a man calls me a slut it will probably hurt his reputation more than it hurts mine, but at any rate the damage will be small and localized. However, if I call him a child molester or claim that he raped me I can destroy him completely and the damage may be nationwide.

    31. If I fail at my career I can blame the male dominated society.

    32. I may have the luxury of staying home and being a housewife but if my sister’s husband does the same thing I’m likely to call him a deadbeat loser and tell her to leave him.

    33. If I “choose” to join the military; the best military occupations providing the most lucrative civilian training will be reserved for me. I will be kept away from the fighting as much as possible to the point that I will be thirty times less likely to be killed in a war zone than my male counterparts. I will be given equal pay for less risk. I will never have to consider the fact that by joining the military and getting a plumb assignment I automatically forced a male out of that position and into a combat role that may cost him his life.

    34. If a male soldier injures himself before a deployment he can be arrested and court marshaled for it. If I deliberately get pregnant before a deployment or even during a deployment I will be reassigned and or taken out of a war zone and I will receive no penalty for it.

    35. My gender watches more television in every hour of every day than any other group. This along with the fact that women control %80 of domestic spending means that most television shows and advertisement are designed to appeal to me.

    36. I can wear masculine clothing if it pleases me however men cannot wear feminine clothing without social penalty.

    37. Not only is there a wealth of clothing choices designed for me but it is likely that I will be able to afford or have them provided for me.

    38. I can claim that a wage gap exists and that it is the fault of sexism while simultaneously seeking employment without considering income as a priority. I will probably choose my job based on satisfaction, flexibility of hours, and working conditions and then expect to make as much as the males working nights, out in the rain and cold or working overtime.

    39. I can be bigoted or sexist against males without social penalty.

    40. If I make a false claim of rape against a male in an act of revenge or in order to cover up my own scandalous behavior I may well succeed at both and he may spend years in prison. If I am found out it is unlikely I will be charged, convicted, or serve any time at all.

    41. If I abuse my husband and physically assault him and the police arrive it is almost guaranteed he will go to jail.

    42. If I am in an abusive relationship there are a multitude of social organizations to help me get away from him. There are few for men in the same position even though women initiate the majority of DV and even though men are hospitalized %30 of the time.

    43. In the event of a natural disaster or other emergency that requires evacuation I can expect to be evacuated before males. This includes male doctors, humanitarians, politicians, captains of industry, billionaires, and religious leaders. I will receive no social penalty if all of those people died because I was evacuated first. However, should they manage to get evacuated before women and those women died they will all suffer a social penalty.

    44. If someone is attacking a person on the street I have no obligation to assist them and I will receive no social penalty if I do nothing.

    45. If someone is harming my children and I run away and ask someone else to help I will receive no social penalty for my cowardice.

    46. I’m immune to cognitive dissonance.

    47. I may denounce the concept of a dowry, however, I still expect a man to give me an engagement ring when he asks me to marry him.

    48. I expect a man to ask me to marry me and suffer the potential risk of rejection.

    49. If I lie it’s because I’m a victim of a male dominated society forced into difficult circumstances and not because I’m a bad person.

    50. If my boyfriend sabotages a condom he can pay me child support for the next 20 years. If I secretly don’t take my birth control my boyfriend can pay me child support for the next 20 years.

    51. If I’m uncomfortable exercising around men I can demand a female only gym be made for women. If any male only gyms exist I can demand membership under threat of lawsuit.

    52. If my female only gym at the university decides to close early for safety reasons I can scream sexism and force them to keep it open as long as the main gym.

    53. If I succeed at keeping the female gym open and I leave late at night and I don’t feel safe I can demand that the university spend hundreds of thousands of dollars for more lighting and police presence.

    54. If after getting new lighting and police protection I decide I don’t want to go to the gym anymore well that’s just my prerogative.

    55. I’m likely to believe that if a woman is intoxicated she is not capable of giving consent and if sex occurs it is rape. However, if her male partner is also intoxicated he is capable of consenting.

    56. If a man is promoted over me at work I have a right to suspect sexism even though I also believe that under adverse circumstances men are more capable than women of making good decisions. (see #55)

    57. I can cry and get my husband to do something for me that he might not have done otherwise.

    58. I expect people (especially men) to be sensitive to my feelings.

    59. I can deny a man’s feelings or disregard them or ridicule him for having them without social penalty.

    60. If I lose my job it’s because of sexism or the economy. If a man loses his job it’s because he’s a loser.

    61. If I go to a club or bar with my girlfriends and I look my sexy best I have a right to be perturbed when men approach me and hit on me in this public place.

    62. Even though men die more from prostate cancer than women die from breast cancer I can expect that twice as much funding is given for breast cancer. The same will apply to any female specific disease or malady.

    63. If for some reason I do not get custody of my children I will be expected to pay less child support than another man in my exact same position.

    64. If I kidnap my children and I am eventually caught I can successfully defend myself by claiming I was protecting them from my husband–even if my children were given to him to protect them from me.

    65. My gender makes up %53 of the voting population yet when I see more men in political office I will call that sexism.

    66. If I am married with children and I want to stay home with the kids I’m likely to blame my husband for not making enough to allow me to do that.

    67. I think it is my right to work and I am unconcerned if the influx of women into the workforce has reduced overall wages to the point that it’s hard to support a family on just one income, or affirmative action has kept men from being promoted even though they deserved it.

    68. I can get student financial aid without signing up for Selective Service (the Draft).

    69. I can get employment with a federal agency without signing up for Selective Service.

    70. Restrooms for my gender will be cleaner and are more likely to have flowers or other decorations.

    71. If I’m caring for a child restrooms for my gender will more likely have a changing table for my convenience.

    72. People I’ve never met before are more likely to open doors for me.

    73. People I’ve never met before are more likely to talk to me in public.

    74. If I go to a bar I can expect that members of the opposite sex will purchase drinks for me.

    75. Anytime I find an organization just for men I can denounce it as sexism.

    76. I believe that women should have organizations just for women.

    77. If I meet a man that I like and I give him my phone number and he doesn’t call I have a right to think of him as an asshole.

    78. If I meet a man that I like and I give him my phone number and he calls me I have a right to blow him off or act like I don’t know him.

    79. I believe I have a right to live in an orderly and safe society but I feel no obligation to risk my safety to secure or maintain that society.

    80. I like it when bars and clubs have drinks specials just for women.

    81. I think that organizations that offer any discounts or privileges just for men is a clear sign of sexism.

    82. If I’m white I will live 6 years longer than white males and 14 years longer than black males.

    83. If I’m encouraged to get medical care it’s because I owe it to myself.

    84. When my husband is encouraged to get medical help it’s because he owes to to me and the kids.

    85. If something bad happens to me or just one woman I believe it is an offense against all women.

    86. I believe that if something bad happens to a man it’s because he’s a loser.

    87. I think that alimony is fair when paid to a woman but not fair when paid by a woman.

    88. I’m more likely to believe that women who commit crimes are sick and need treatment or understanding whereas men who commit crimes are evil and should be locked up forever.

    89. I can criticize the opposite sex without social penalty, but woe be to the man who attempts to criticize me or other women.

    90. I can throw a fit and act like a two year old to get what I want without damaging my mate value.

    91. I have the luxury of not being the filter for natural selection.

    92. I can sleep with my boss if I want and afterwards I can sue him for sexual harassment.

    93. I can wear seductive clothing and perfume to attract a man at work but no one will accuse me of sexual harassment.

    94. If I hear a story about Darfur and how men who leave the refugee camps to gather wood are hacked to death to prevent their wives from being raped I am likely to think that is proper but not likely to send money.

    95. If I hear a story about Darfur and how women are leaving the refugee camps to gather wood are being raped I’m likely to be outraged. I’m also likely to wonder why these women’s husbands aren’t protecting them.

    96. If I ever heard these stories about Darfur it is my privilege not to care or even consider that the reason the second story exists is because all the men in the first have already been killed.

    97. It is my right to maintain the belief that men oppress women despite all of the evidence to the contrary.

    1. Okay, where to start… First of all, many of those things are actually reasons why I still consider myself feminist. A lot of the things you mentioned are social discrimination as a result of men filling stereotypically feminine or female gender roles. For example, men absolutely ought to have the same protections against DV as women, and there should be equal support systems for fathers who are homemakers or primary caregivers for their children.

      I don’t understand why you have brought up a lot of the feminine vs masculine tropes in society as a reason to oppose feminism, because feminism (from my understanding and every other feminist I’ve talked to) already oppose them. The military and the Selective Service (vile organization that shouldn’t exist, imo) should not discriminate, I absolutely agree with that.

      A big part of the reason I haven’t just switched over to self-identifying as egalitarian, is because I think that femininity (note: not women; women, specifically cis women, are more well accepted when behaving femininely) is viewed pejoratively. It is that toxic culture which prevents men who seek aid in domestic violence situations, or who need assistance as caretakers for their children, from receiving the aid they need.

      Why do you think there is the double standard in clothes? And women can wear men’s (masculine) clothing without anything being thought of it, while men can’t wear women’s (feminine) clothing without there often being some sort of social consequence? It’s because femininity is undervalued, and men being feminine especially so.

      Masculinity is celebrated by most western cultures. The problem is, the kind of masculinity that is celebrated is often destructive to men; it encompasses acts and situations that can put men in great peril. It admires stoicism and a lack of self regard by men and for men, as well as their feelings and situations. That’s toxic masculinity.

      It’s important to note that masculinity and femininity do not in this context map 1:1 with men and women; there are plenty of women who support such a paradigm (although I would be pissed if someone claimed to be a feminist while enforcing toxic masculinity which is detrimental, and even deadly, to men)

      For example, it’s considered masculine and admirable by such a culture for a man to fight (and die) for his country. That is wrong. That is evil. And it needs to stop.

      As much as I feel like those were strawmen attacks against feminism, I either agree that every one of those points is morally reprehensible and a social problem, or don’t have sufficient data on its existence.

      Put simply, if feminism supports the continuance of the problems you have outlined, then I am not a feminist. But I don’t as of yet believe that it does.

      1. Put simply, if feminism supports the continuance of the problems you have outlined, then I am not a feminist. But I don’t as of yet believe that it does.

        That’ll be why feminists keep on harassing and shutting down Men’s Rights issues/conferences right?

        Like I said earlier, the only type of feminists we see in the positions that matter – such as the media, news outlets, magazines, TV, adverts, women’s organizations, etc. are the radicals preaching down to all of us about how men are the evil and how laws need to be made to oppress men and take away everything that’s catered to men to “protect the women”.

        (funny how you completely ignored this and didn’t have a response…)

        So because all we see in the media are the radical feminists speaking for all you “good” feminists (lmao) I’ll use radical feminism as a basis for the following points:

        – Women having more rights than men – feminists support it

        – Women to be the default carer for children in child custody – feminists support it

        – Women to receive less harsh sentences for the same crimes as men – feminists support it

        – Entertainment media that’s catered to men to be banned and removed – feminists support it

        – Women-only spaces – feminists support it

        – The CDC concealing false rape accusation statistics – feminism influenced this and supports it

        – Men unable to be raped – feminist supports this despite what happens in male prisons

        – Automatic guilt and jail for men accused of rape – feminists support this

        – “Rape Culture” – feminists support this despite there being none in the West

        – The 1-in-5 statistic – feminists support this despite it being proven to be completely false

        – The wage gap – feminists support this despite it being proven to be a complete lie, even one of your White House election candidates carries on peddling this bullshit (assuming you are in the USA)

        etc

        I ask again – why aren’t all you “good” feminists speaking out against it? I think we all know why.

        Therefore as evidence suggests, feminism has turned into nothing more than a bigoted, supremacist movement that looks after, cares for and works only for the benefit of women. And they do this by taking away the rights of men.

        So you either have your head buried in the sand for the last decade or you’re very intellectually dishonest.

      2. That’ll be why feminists keep on harassing and shutting down Men’s Rights issues/conferences right?

        To be honest, I see feminists and MRAs as natural allies. I’ve never understood why they often attack each other.

        Like I said earlier, the only type of feminists we see in the positions that matter – such as the media, news outlets, magazines, TV, adverts, women’s organizations, etc. are the radicals

        That’s unfortunate. I didn’t observe the same thing, but perhaps we consume different media. I am absolutely anti-radfem, and I do speak out. If I have a friend who is a feminist and spouts non-sense like that, I call them out. Of course, if we’re talking someone in a position of power that is out of the scope of my or others’ influence, there’s not a lot that can be done, at least by people working as individuals. But that’s true of corrupt politicians in general.

        preaching down to all of us about how men are the evil and how laws need to be made to oppress men and take away everything that’s catered to men to “protect the women”.

        I oppose that very strongly. And stuff like Dead or Alive are things which don’t make any sense to attack, if one’s intention truly was to protect women, or anyone for that matter.

        Also, it’s a small point, but I don’t believe DOAX3 is inherently catering to men. It is catering to people who like women, men just happen to constitute a majority in that.

        – Men unable to be raped – feminist supports this despite what happens in male prisons

        I have literally never seen anyone both claim that and claim to be a feminist. Perhaps the scope of my exposure to feminist theory is too limited to have seen it firsthand, but I remain skeptical.

        Maybe 2nd wave stuff? I think the vast majority of 3rd wave feminists would try to defend men who were victims of sexual assault.

        – Women to receive less harsh sentences for the same crimes as men – feminists support it

        I don’t support it… Maybe others do, but I haven’t seen it. It’s wrong and unfair at, any rate.

        I ask again – why aren’t you “good” feminists speaking out against it?

        I do speak out against it. Maybe it means I’m not a feminist? Who knows. I haven’t been convinced otherwise, but I feel like labels are muddying the waters here.

        (funny how you completely ignored this and didn’t have a response…)

        Sorry for not responding to everything. You posted a lot of points, and I didn’t have time to address everything one by one, so I responded to the ones which struck a cord with me and I felt like I had pertinent things to say about them.

        So you either have your head buried in the sand for the last decade or you’re very intellectually dishonest.

        I assure you, if it is ignorance, it is not willful. I’m not sure what you mean by intellectually dishonest here, but if you mean I am pretending to not be aware of certain facts, then that is false.

        The fact is I do question my own identity as a feminist, and the toxicity spewed by some so-called “feminists” is part of the reason why. The other reason is because labels can inherently cause semantic misunderstanding, as I believe we have experienced in this discussion.

        (P.S.: full-disclosure, I don’t have enough data about the rape statistics issue, and need to do more research before I can properly address those points.)

      3. To be honest, I see feminists and MRAs as natural allies. I’ve never understood why they often attack each other.

        You’ll actually find that it’s feminists that significantly attack Men’s Right’s issues/conferences. Nice try on playing the ‘BUT THE MRA DO IT TOO’ card.

        Of course, if we’re talking someone in a position of power that is out
        of the scope of my or others’ influence, there’s not a lot that can be done

        Disagree. If “good” feminists all banded together and dedicated themselves to speaking out against the radicals, they can end the radical nonsense.

        Instead, most have chosen the selfish route of wanting all the special privileges and benefits at the expense of men. You know, the ‘YOU GO GIRL!’ sisterhood attitude.

        Like I said before: good feminists and bad feminists – different attitudes, but the same goals in the end.

        Also, it’s a small point, but I don’t believe DOAX3 is inherently catering to men. It is catering to people who like women, men just happen to constitute a majority in that.

        Completely agree.

        But that won’t stop the SJWs/feminists completely ignoring the fact that it caters to lesbians and bisexual women as well. Instead, gotta keep that anti-men and misogyny narrative going right?

        This is yet another case of feminists lying out of their ass.

        I think the vast majority of 3rd wave feminists would try to defend men who were victims of sexual assault.

        Come on. You’re trolling me now right?

        The fact is I do question my own identity as a feminist, and the toxicity spewed by some so-called “feminists”

        “so-called”. See, you’re doing it again – trying to disassociate feminists from any wrongdoing and deflect the blame away from them.

        Let me tell you – feminism has evolved into this radical state, BECAUSE THE ‘GOOD’ FEMINISTS ALLOWED IT TO. This IS the feminism of today.

        I’m sorry to break this to you but your precious feminism ideology is not the holy angels they claim to be. It’s always been a bigoted, selfish and misandrist movement at the root, and what they advocate for in law and society only proves this further. All behind the false mask of “equality”.

      4. Instead, most have chosen the selfish route of wanting all the special privileges and benefits at the expense of men. You know, the ‘YOU GO GIRL!’ sisterhood attitude.

        Like I said before: good feminists and bad feminists – different attitudes, but the same goals in the end.

        Not sure what you mean here. I don’t understand how a feminist who wants to oppress men, and one who wants true equality and equity have the same goals? They seem at odds with one another to me.

        Come on. You’re trolling me now right?

        Actually not. I truly believe that most people who self-identify as feminist also find men being raped in prison (and elsewhere) to be a real problem.

        “so-called”. See, you’re doing it again – trying to disassociate feminists from any wrongdoing and deflect the blame away from them.

        “Feminist” is a large umbrella term which has a lot of factions trying to exploit its history for social or political gain. I didn’t see that as trying to disassociate blame from feminists, rather I feel that as I identify as a feminist, too, at some level I wanted to distance myself from those people I disagree with and who claim the same label.

        Just as you might want to distance yourself from the anti-SJW folks who are also anti-LGBT, right?

        But labels are tricky business, and sometimes cause more harm than good when it factionalizes discussion and confrontations.

        Let me tell you – feminism has evolved into this radical state, BECAUSE THE ‘GOOD’ FEMINISTS ALLOWED IT TO. This IS the feminism of today.

        It is a part of it, yes. Unfortunately.

        I’m sorry to break this to you but your precious feminism ideology is not the holy angels they claim to be. It’s always been a bigoted, selfish and misandrist movement at the root, and what they advocate for in law and society only proves this further. They do this while hiding behind that false mask of “equality”.

        There is some truth in this, but I don’t entirely agree. There has always been problems, and it’s a term which has a lot of baggage associated with it, but I still see there as being more good than bad. You see more bad than good. The difference is in degrees.

        As I said though, I feel that on the issues, we mostly agree. Which is why I feel like in this case the point of contention is primarily semantic/sociolinguistic.

      5. Actually not. I truly believe that most people who self-identify as
        feminist also find men being raped in prison (and elsewhere) to be a
        real problem.

        “I truly believe”

        An extremely loose and flaky statement.

        In other words, feminists spoon-fed you shit and you swallowed every drop of it without needing to see evidence of it.

        Feminism has always been angelic on paper, but their actions suggests otherwise. I really suggest you delve deep into their actions (not just the radicals, but also the organized feminist associations/women’s groups as well) to finally see this for yourself.

        I’m not 100% sure on this, but I think you should know that there was a feminist outrage when the law in Canada (I think it’s Canada, could be wrong) made changes to the law that finally officially implemented that men can be raped as well.

        The feminists were said to not be happy with this, because it suggests
        that – shock horror – women can be perpetrators as well. What does that tell you about feminists huh?

        The YouTuber Stefan Molineux covered this a long while ago where he actually brought up a load of official statistics to back up his claims.

        There is some truth in this, but I don’t entirely agree. I still see there as being more good than bad.
        You see more bad than good. The difference is in degrees.

        Unbelievable.

        You admit that there is some truth it, and yet you still think there is “more good than bad” in a movement that is built on misandry and the changing of law and society to further it?

        What good is there in a movement that constantly harasses and shuts down Men’s Rights issues, demonizes men and and enforce changes to the law which benefits women only and oppresses men?

        Do you enjoy it when the likes of BuzzFeed keeps on churning and pushing out the bullshit than men are evil, white people are evil, and how women have it soooooooooooo bad and that men “must change” to give women special treatment?

        Time and time again you’re coming up with pathetic excuses to defend the indefensible.

        You’re starting to come across as a god damn modern feminist apologist.

        I suggest you look up the Matt Taylor shirtgate story. That’s today’s modern Social Justice feminism in a nutshell. These are the people you’re defending.

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