Street Fighter 5 Producer Confirms R. Mika’s Butt-Slap Was Removed To Avoid Offending Anyone

An interview published on December 8th, 2015 on the gaming section of a Brazilian website called Uol.com has a few snippets from Street Fighter V producer Yoshinori Ono regarding the topic of self-censorship and making changes to the game to avoid offending certain groups.

The Portuguese interview was translated by a NeoGaf member named Moraizen, and a few members from Kotaku in Action confirmed that the translation was legitimate, where Ono states…

“Our objective with ‘Street Fighter V’ is to start over from zero”[…] “We want the professional players and the casual fans of the series to return, but we also want to reach those who have never even touched a fighting game. So we can’t have something in the game that makes people think, ‘This is not acceptable’”.

 

“We didn’t make any change because of external influences” […] “Those changes came up internally. We decided to remove that because we want the biggest possible number of people to play, and we don’t want to have something in the game that might make someone uncomfortable”.

This was in response to being asked about the much talked about butt-slap from Rainbow Mika being removed in the latest version of the beta for Street Fighter V. It was one of the only things people could talk about.

According to Ono, the changes were done to widen the appeal of the game and avoid offending anyone. He goes on to say…

“Probably we won’t be able to remove everything that could offend someone. But our goal is, at least, to reduce that number as much as possible so that they think ‘Ok, there is this issue here, but it is within the limits’.”

He explains it in a way that makes it known that they didn’t want anyone becoming “discomforted” by the content in the game and they didn’t want content in the game that could widely be deemed as offensive. This is despite the fact that they received quite a bit of push-back from the reveal of Rashid on 9/11.

Street Fighter 5 Censorship R. Mika WTF!! Capcom!!

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Interestingly enough, Epic Games also ran into a similar problem along with other notable companies who make violent and mature video games such as NetherRealm Studios who were formerly known as Midway Games. In the case of the aforementioned companies, they implemented “Mature” filters. You can easily go into the options menu and turn on or off the mature filter that will limit the blood, gore and language in a game. Epic has also been rather vigilant in giving consumers options to play and experience the titles in a way that best suit their sensibilities as opposed to just removing the content altogether.

Reddit user ghebert001 also suggested the same thing, writing in the thread on Kotaku in Action….

“There’s an option to turn off blood and gore in games like Mortal Kombat (I assume that’s still an option, haven’t played the latest ones)…they could just make an SJW mode that removes anything that might be remotely offensive like not allowing the players to pit male and female fighters against each other in the same match or replacing fighter’s costumes that might be “culturally appropriating” even if it’s that character’s own culture. They could just call it “FUN – ON or OFF”.”

Street Fighter V is another victim of the current outrage culture climate, joining the likes of Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 and some titles withheld by Idea Factory International, all in hopes of avoiding rubbing the Western media the wrong way with the depiction of their characters that don’t align with America’s gender politics.

Street Fighter V is due for release on PC and PS4 on February 16th, 2016. The third beta test takes place on December 18th.

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  • Muten

    Filho da puta…

  • Joseph F

    They always go out of their way to say things like, “We didn’t do this because of external pressure,” because they don’t want SJWs attacking them for even saying that they didn’t want SJWs to attack them. But of course that’s the reason. They may have not gotten any external pressure to change the feature yet, but they knew that, had they released the game without changing it, they would have been attacked by SJWs. The change was a preventative measure to avoid all the negative press they’d have gotten had they not changed it.

    The annoying part about this is that, because they won’t just come out and say they changed it to avoid having their game become the target of an SJW smear campaign, now, any time anyone cites this as an example of SJWs causing devs to self censor, idiots are going to say, “Nuh-uh! They said it wasn’t ’cause of external influences!” Yeah, and the wife with a black eye says that she just fell down, but we know what really happened.

    • There’s a movie clip that perfectly sums this up but I can’t seem to find it.

      Bad guys threatening another character to call the lead hero and let them know that they’re not being threatened. Of all the bad-action movies I’ve seen I can’t believe I can’t find one clip that fits this scenario, thus, this poor comment of mine is an epic fail.

      Nevertheless, yeah… I wholeheartedly agree that those who side with the SJWs will use this an excuse to say that the self-censorship had nothing to do with the perpetually offended offendetrons.

    • scemar

      They’re selling themselves out and betraying their audiences

    • They’ve completely caved in big time.

      The “THEY ONLY DID IT TO GET THE T RATING” and “IT’S NOT CENSORSHIP” brigade can now go crawl back into their holes and stay there.

      • Joseph F

        The “They only did it to get the rating” argument is bullshit even when it’s true. It’s absolutely censorship that one organization has a monopoly on game ratings and gets to basically dictate what kinds of games can be sold to which age groups.

      • ewokingdead

        caved to what? what pressure?

    • ewokingdead

      if they were worried about the smear campaign they would have removed R Mika’s outfit alltogehter.

      Otherwise it’s like saying “I lock my door when I leave my house because I don’t want to get robbed, but I leave all my windows open to let air in”

      • Joseph F

        So why do you think they changed it?

      • ewokingdead

        that’s obvious Cross Assault, that’s the reason they changed it.

      • Keep trying. You’re fooling no-one.

      • ewokingdead

        oh that’s cute you have no idea what you are talking about.

      • You’ve been exposed. Give it up.

      • Joseph F

        I don’t know what that means. What’s “Cross Assault”?

      • ewokingdead

        back in Feb 2012 long before SJW and even before anyone had ever heard of Anita Sarkeesian, Capcom made a Twitch reality TV show called Cross Assault.

        During it one of the female players was sexually harased and…. well it was reallly creepy. It gave capcom a black eye. But what is worse is what the guy who did it said when asked

        Can we have fighting games without sexual harrasement

        “Bakhtanians: You can’t. You can’t because they’re one and the same thing. This is a community that’s, you know, 15 or 20 years old, and the sexual harassment is part of a culture, and if you remove that from the fighting game community, it’s not the fighting game community–it’s StarCraft. There’s nothing wrong with StarCraft if you enjoy it, and there’s nothing wrong with anything about eSports, but why would you want just one flavor of ice cream, you know? There’s eSports for people who like eSports, and there’s fighting games for people who like spicy food and like to have fun. There’s no reason to turn them into the same thing, you know?”

        So since 2012 Capcom has been doing what it can to get more women playing their games and fewer assholes like this.

      • Joseph F

        How was the female player sexually harassed? Did someone put their hands on her, or did they say something that was inappropriate to her, or was it something else?

        Also, I’m having trouble seeing the connection between whatever this incident was a censoring R. Mika in Street Fighter 5. You say it was to attract more female players and less sexual harassers, but that implies that female players necessarily dislike sexy depictions of women and that men who do like sexy depictions of women also harass women in real life. I don’t think either of those things are true.

      • ewokingdead

        have you not seen the video?

      • Actually.. do you have a link to the video?

        The only people who seem to have covered this event extensively are the same sites who lied about #GamerGate. It’s impossible to gauge what really happened when these sites have lied so horribly in the past.

      • ewokingdead

        did giant bomb lie about GG?

      • Yeah they locked down the threads for anyone trying to discuss it. A real shame. I was just wondering if there was a site that covered the Cross Assault without the social justice angle? Just like a video and the facts of what happened.

      • ewokingdead

        how is that lying about GG? they are a lot of GG stlll there that discuss GG things.

      • This is a lie: https://i.imgur.com/F7yxMsz.png

        They listened and believed. Unless they can prove that women were being targeted and people were denying it?

      • ewokingdead

        well they can it was called Quinngate. That was very clearly GG harrasing a female game devleoper for no reason especially since it turned out everything said aobut her was a lie

      • It was called the #Quinnspiracy and then they said “change the hashtag” so Adam Baldwin came up with #GamerGate.

        That was very clearly GG harrasing a female game devleoper

        You got a link to this harassment? It has to be documented somewhere since a lot of that stuff was archived.

      • ewokingdead

        ummm yeah there are tons of death threats, doxxing, and so on. Are you going to try to claim that didn’t happen?

        I mean really? The worst thing you could do is try to deny it.

      • The best thing I could do is ask you for evidence of these instances that include “tons of death threats, doxxing, and so on”. :^)

      • ewokingdead
      • Joseph F

        I already told you that I didn’t even know what “Cross Assault” was; so obviously I haven’t seen the video.

      • Okay, so you admit yourself that R.Mika’s outfit has stayed in the game, but is a ‘risque’ costume anyway regardless of the butt slap right?

        But they chose to specifically remove the butt-slap.

        Why is that I wonder?

        Come on, use your head.

      • ewokingdead

        apperenlty you dont know anything about SF, the answer is in Cross Assault

      • Apparently you don’t know anything about indirect censorship either. Unless you’re a SJW of course…

      • ewokingdead

        Bakhtanians says you are wrong

      • Are you even trying anymore, SJW?

      • C G Saturation

        The whole thing is bullshit.

        I think R.Mika looks like an abomination, I hate her outfit. She makes me feel uncomfortable in general, and I’d prefer she didn’t exist, but it’s not something I’d whine about to the extent of forcing the developer to make changes. I don’t give a damn if she wants to pat her butt in front of the camera, either.

        If people aren’t going to buy Street Fighter because a character pats their butt, then those people need to grow the hell up. I wouldn’t want their stupid immature money. Besides, those games always have a ton of completely different costumes now. It’s not like they can’t just pick another outfit.

      • ewokingdead

        Nobody complained about it, that’s the point. this isn’t because of SJW

      • Spotted the SJW.

      • ewokingdead

        oh good the “You don’t agree with me so you must be a SJW” defense.

      • No, it’s because of the things you’re saying and what you’re implying.

      • ewokingdead

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D4l0izPVM0 what is it that im’ implying

  • DavidGX

    The problem with trying to make something that appeals to everyone is that you might end up with something that appeals to no one.

  • Sevuz

    Well that does it. PC version it is.

  • scemar

    Personally I think the japanese have no idea what madness has infected the west but see it as a bizarre bunch of people and just do their best trying to figure out what they want.

    So my solution to this would be simple, if they think X will offend people so they deal with it accordingly then send an opposing and equal message so they will not continue censoring games.

    If they remove things to avoid offending people then let’s get offended at the removal of it.

    • Personally I think the japanese have no idea what madness has infected
      the west but see it as a bizarre bunch of people and just do their best
      trying to figure out what they want.

      Yep, that’s the impression I’m getting as well. They assume the corrupt gaming media speaks for gamers, when in reality it’s more like gamers versus corrupt gaming media.

      There definitely needs to be a collective campaign from various gaming communities to show that the press no longer represents gaming.

      • scemar


        There definitely needs to be a collective campaign from various gaming
        communities to show that the press no longer represents gaming.

        Yeah that’s exactly what they need to know, it’s what should do the trick perfectly, if it can be done. The message would need to be loud and clear or it’ll take a while for it to get to them.

      • C G Saturation

        You’re absolutely correct.

        After GamerGate’s birth, I checked Japanese major gaming news sites and forums for their reaction. They seemed to mostly link to the corrupt gaming news sites, and corrupt mainstream media. Their summaries were also based on that information.

        On KiA, I remember seeing posts from JP people who said that they’re not stupid and knew what was really going on. But I’m sure it’s very much like with the West, where you have to care enough to dig deeper for the actual facts.

        The JP people I’ve spoken to so far (both male and female) have all said feminists are full of shit, though.

    • Arbitrary

      “If they remove things to avoid offending people then let’s get offended at the removal of it.”

      ^ This.

      They’re apparently pathologically terrified of “offense”. So let’s give them some fucking offense.

    • Sevuz

      if this goes on play-asia.com is gonna get more money 😛

    • Bitterbear

      Tough luck, Asian corporations value their wholesome image above anything else. They’d rather go bankrupt than to let their image get tarnished on Mainstream media.

    • C G Saturation

      They don’t. The Japanese people I’ve spoken to have said they don’t have such problems over there. But it’s true that anime has been censoring everything a lot more than they used to.

  • Ste V B

    Seems rather redundant when there are two women sitting on someone’s face in the same animation.

    • Sevuz

      Yeah it is + you can still see her butt when see does other moves

  • Arbitrary

    Fucking cowards.

  • Syake

    Just a small correction to this article:
    Jogos is just the games section of the Uol site (“jogos” simply means “games”)
    For exemple, they also have “noticias.uol” (news) and “economia.uol” (economy).

    • Oh thanks for this. I made the correction and noted it was on the gaming section of Uol.

      *Fixed.

  • queazy

    https://youtu.be/nlUM0awYC28
    Because female japanese wrestlers never put on a show where they slap their butts or use hip attacks…

  • lucben999

    But that raises the question: who could possibly be offended by Mika’s butt slap? Which demographic could be behind these changes? Is there any acronym to accurately name them?

    Oh the mystery.

    • Sevuz

      If you have seen how much radical fems and Social Just Whiners here in the west goes ape shit over pretty much anything… well guess who would 😉

  • Jerry Erikson

    This censorship offends me. WHAT NOW?!

    oh yeah, that’s right. I might actually buy these games, but my opinion doesn’t matter. Theirs does (even though they wouldn’t buy these games anyways)

  • Patrick Toworfe

    How stupid and pointless. You STILL see her ass in the final shot of the starting animation, and it’s not as if the rest of the fanservice is gone. This change seems so selective and stupid. They’re trying not to ‘offend’ anyone? Please. The existence of R Mika and Laura alone are enough to trigger the tumblerinas. Why the HELL are they trying to pander to people who wouldn’t play the game anyway? I’m sorry, but if a woman’s body is so offensive to someone, then they probably shouldn’t be playing that game anyway. Taking out one butt slap animation, from an over the top show off character like Mika, wont grantee a wider outreach for a game with fanservice.

    • Sevuz

      That’s why I think this more a lame sales stunt. It’s makes no sense

  • “We didn’t make any change because of external influences”

    Then:

    “and we don’t want to have something in the game that might make someone uncomfortable”

    Fucking lying cowards. Capcom pandering to SJWs and feminists. Another company to add the list of pandering little cunts.

    As always, vote with your wallets. Don’t buy the game. The more they pander, the more SJWs will ask for censoring.

    • Motherfucking Deadpool!

      Doesn’t surprise me. Capcom started sucking at the time RE5 came out. I mean who the fuck puts DLC on the disc and then you have to download some sort of “okay” it to unlock stuff that is ALREADY ON THE DISC!

      • Yeah Capcom sucks with the disc unlocking stuff, but that’s an entirely different issue. By censoring R.Mika they’ve basically now set a precedent, and gives SJWs/feminists the green light to attack and influence even more Japanese developers.

        Censorcom should be ashamed of themselves.

      • Motherfucking Deadpool!

        Its sad that even a guy like Ono goes on his knees because of these scumbags. I see the next video game crash coming but its not only the fault of the SJ Wankers but also the devs since they are the ones pulling their pants down and waiting to get fucked. If they want to appease to the SOCJUS then they should do. When the well is dried up and they try to come back to us begging for forgivness they can go fuck themselves.
        How did the famous anti-GG whale say? “You made your bed now get fucked in it!”.

      • Caving into and pandering to them is bad enough, but what makes it even worse is that SJWs/feminists are so anti-Japanese culture when it comes to the geek/nerd sector, which video games are part of obviously.

        Ono has basically ditched Japanese culture by putting it second in his list of priorities and instead putting the Western SJW feminists as the first priority (to not offend anyone).

        He’s also a fucking asshole for not directly or indirectly making the point that SJWs/feminists are the reason he’s removed the butt-slap. Instead he’s towing the “we want this game to appeal to everyone” party line.

        Team Ninja/Koei Tecmo may be cowards, but AT LEAST they indirectly made the point that the reason they didn’t release DOAX3 in the West is because of SJW/feminist whining.

        So not only has Ono caved into SJWs, he’s also protecting them as well. What an asshole.

      • C G Saturation

        Ono has always been about pandering to the lowest common denominator, so it’s not surprising in the least.

        It’s one of the reasons why I hate him so much.

      • Motherfucking Deadpool!

        Capcom lost alot of money in the last 10 years and even though they are still big they still can (and likely will) go bancrupt in a few years and when this happens he can go cry to the clique. Maybe he can hang out with the tale of tales guys.

      • Motherfucking Deadpool!

        If you pre-order RE0 you get a cheerleader outfit for Rebecca and a Mad Max like outfit for Billy.
        A white knight is already complaining on reddit. I think you can guess which outfit bothers him and which he ignores.
        He of course uses the “its 2015!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” defense. Thank god people call him out on it.
        Its also a good sign that some folks of Capcom give us sexy girls without shitting their pants.

      • lol really? I guess it’s not so grim after all.

        As for the white knight, well yes it’s 2015 – but puritans were around back in the 1600s and were at their most powerful around 1650.

        Therefore the fact is, the white knight is a regressive little shit. Not to mention a complete hypocrite to ignore the likes of Topless Dante and Cloud.

      • Motherfucking Deadpool!

        I looked the post up again and he cleared his comment from reddit. Might have been butthurt that people made fun of his stupidity. White Knights always ignore the fact that hot women in games are not only meant for males but also lesbians. SJW are so tolerant they always ignore the existence of homosexuals. That is until they need to exploit them for their agenda of course.

        Here is a picture of the outfit that got him so outraged. But don’t forget to ignore Billy.

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4f0f6a210ddf0ab04d4aa91367bc94f54ce5f40bccc129776bda3ab2d2431f00.jpg

      • Lol, looks a bit like Sakura from a distance…

        But yeah… these days I’m more mellow and tend to visit gaming forums/social sites less frequent than I used to.

        But I’m glad he got hammered for it though, there is still hope yet.

        Earlier on the year I remember going to NeoGAF forums one time and read a thread about Anita Sarkeesian’s proposal to ban/censor certain aspects from female characters (no prizes for guessing what they are) and the thread was full of white knights and manginas. There were 1 or 2 people against the proposals and they got hammered. Not sure if it’s still like that now though, but I’m guessing it still is.

      • Motherfucking Deadpool!

        Neogaf is the white knight HQ. If Sarky would stab a guy in cold blood they would find a way to make it look like she was in the right. I’m conviced no one of these cucks ever touched a real vagina.

      • C G Saturation

        Since Ono took the reins, those games have been changed to appeal to everyone. It’s his modus operandi.

        Stuff like SF4’s focus attack and ultras were designed to be usable by novice/casual players. They even said they wanted newbies to be able to stand up to pros.

        Who knows what other changes he’s previously made behind the scenes? People are probably only noticing now because they’ve been more transparent during SFV’s dev process.

      • Motherfucking Deadpool!

        The “games” of the indy crew, tale of tales nad others have already shown that we are the majority and not the SJW turds. It is frustrating but if these assholes want to pander just because a fat mommas boy and a hopp earing skank started this shit then they can go fuck themselves. THQ was a giant years ago and where are they know? Gone! The same thing can happen with everybody. Spit in your costumers face and we never forget. Stefanie Joosten said it best.

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c95b371cc64a3926b5f4e3754a6679258a645934b8cc57bf8058e15c1bef58c8.png

      • This is precisely it. When developers start self-censoring in their private development studios it just becomes harder and harder to call SJWs/feminists out.

        The more they do this, the more SJWs will look to find other things to censor.

        Eventually complete artistic freedom will be gone, EVERY character has to be approved by BlackLivesMatter and feminists, and all female characters will be nothing but square blocks with burkas.

        Developers like Ono are making their own bed by pulling this self-censorship bullshit.

      • C G Saturation

        That’s because by the time RE5 came out they’d already laid off most if not all of their talented staff.

        From everything I’ve heard, the executives at Capcom have always been a bunch of money-grubbing tight-asses. Their artists and devs had to fight them tooth and nail to make the games we loved so much. Then they ended up getting canned if those games didn’t sell enough.

        Examples:
        Street Fighter 3 didn’t sell well = SF2/3 team dissolved. Notice we never see Capcom art from that era of artists anymore.

        God Hand, Joe, PN, Okami, etc. didn’t sell well = Clover dissolved, left to become Platinum Games.

      • Motherfucking Deadpool!

        Harada tells the people who think the Tekken 7 design is “muh soggykneestic” to fuck off. I hope he stays that way. The bad thing is that studio execs might force him to tone it down ie censor himself.
        Now that Kojima was fired it is very likely that MGS6 (and they will 100% make another one) could be PC. Fuck em all! I still have my classic games collection. If they want to destroy the industry fine but they can’t come back to us and cry like the spineless fucks they are.
        They want to go SOCJUS, fine but they can stay there. Lets see how long the few crybabies can and will (and we know they don’t by these fucking games anyway) keep them alive.
        Its not very smart when you have to choose between millions of gamers and a few hundreds of crybullies, to side with the crybullies.

  • Mr.Towel

    Gotta admit, an SJW filter would be hilarious tragic. Someone needs to make a mod out of this concept as satire

    • If that really was made an option in-game, the SJWs would still complain. That would definitely expose the SJWs/feminists as the complete authoritarian bigots they really are.

  • Ky Luong

    By removing it they offened everyone. You guys want revenge? Don’t buy Street Fighter V. Don’t buy censor products. Boycott the product. Force it to fail than reminds the company why it failed. That’s how you level the playing field against SJW. That’s how you win the ideological war in a free market.

    • Sevuz

      Or if people do get it… mod the shit… and spam butt slaps, butts, tits, abs everywhere ^^

      • Motherfucking Deadpool!

        Batman puts the MAN in man!

  • C G Saturation

    Oh? So much for all the people insisting it was a confirmed glitch.

    He says it wasn’t external influence, but the fact is that SJWs actively encourage people to react negatively to such exposure. With that in mind, the internal decision to remove discomfort is indirectly influenced by SJW mindset.

    Regardless, this is still another example of how widening target demographic only ends up hurting the quality of the product. The best stuff is usually aimed towards a more specific audience. I for one am more than sick of everyone trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator to rake in more profits.

    As far as I’m concerned, Street Fighter was a lot better when it was aimed towards fighting game enthusiasts, and not everyone on the planet. I don’t care that they didn’t get as many sales. To me, old fighters are still vastly superior.

    I’ve never liked Ono. He’s popular because he presents himself in a likable manner, but every game of his I’ve played has been beyond terrible.

  • Jesus Zamora

    I’m still not sure it’s the huge deal it is. If you go on Shoryuken and other sites that actually follow fighting games, Capcom’s made it clear they’re going for a more “esports” angle with this game.

    • I think it’s this part of the quote:

      Probably we won’t be able to remove everything that could offend someone. But our goal is, at least, to reduce that number as much as possible so that they think ‘Ok, there is this issue here, but it is within the limits’

      Essentially, we already know what they intended for the game and now they’re backpedaling based on not wanting to offend anyone.

      If they never gave Mika the move or whatever then that’s fine. They would have been making those changes at the core design level. However, the design was already finished and they decided to alter it after the fact. So it does have to do with outside influences otherwise they would have left it alone since I don’t think this was an issue at all until people noticed that it was removed.

      • Jesus Zamora

        Still, I wonder how much of it was them being SJW scared and how much of it was just someone going “really, guys? Closeup of the ass? That’s going to scare the Starcraft II people.” Considering NOTHING ELSE has been changed at all (including a move where Mika and her partner smash their asses against her opponent), I wonder how much of this is mistranslation and how much of this is making Ono’s words a rally cry.

        Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s a misguided move. I just think it’s a misguided move for different reasons. They’re trying to chase after the buckets of money being thrown at Starcraft II and DOTA, but fighting games and the community surrounding them will never be that. The eSports crowd is NEVER going to get into SF, and Capcom is better off trying to make a separate eSports game. If the fighting game genre ever grows beyond the grey-hairs like me who still play them, it’s not going to be with a Street Fighter title.

      • Considering NOTHING ELSE has been changed at all (including a move where Mika and her partner smash their asses against her opponent), I wonder how much of this is mistranslation and how much of this is making Ono’s words a rally cry.

        I think it’s a multitude of factors.

        1.) They definitely know about the SJW nonsense going on and I think they just made low-tier modifications to keep some outrage at bay. It costs very little to move a camera up or down as opposed to redoing animations, textures or meshes. The camera thing just takes a few minutes to modify while the others could take anywhere between hours all the way up to several weeks to redo, test and re-implement.

        2.) Like you mentioned, I think Capcom wants that sweet piece of the $600 million e-sports pie. Capcom are greedy mofos. Modifying the camera for the sake of “broadening appeal” is a low-tier way to “broaden appeal”.

        3.) I agree that the e-sports crowd will never get into SF like they do MOBAs and RTS games but that’s not stopping pubs from trying. NetherRealm tried removing all the sexy-time from MKX and it wasn’t like that did anything in regards to bringing more female competitors to the FGC e-sports scene. Capcom could be making these changes to lessen SJW fallout and increase e-sports appeal but it’s always only going to be the core audience interested in SF. I wish someone would just tell them they’re wasting their time chasing after SJW victim bux.

      • Jesus Zamora

        Well, you know how it goes. Gotta have that period of experimentation, see if that’s REALLY what’s keeping non-core FGC players outside of the FGC. Honestly, the games are too cryptic. Call of Duty, you can figure that out easy – you point at dudes and pull the trigger. Mobas, you get a decent team together and can at least figure out the basics with little effort. Starcraft has been and will always be the national sport of South Korea, so that’s guaranteed a shit-ton of top tier players vying for big money.

        The FGC never really grew beyond a bunch of ill-mannered, intimidating arcade urchins who were always hostile to newer players and never really grew much of a community outside of those arcade urchins. SFIV helped a bit, but Capcom wet the bed with the re-releases, and the DLC orgy for SFV probably won’t help either. However, fighting games are what they are – they require hours of boring rote memorization to get competitive at, and nothing Capcom or anyone else does will change that.

        As to MKX, while it’s no doubt more modest than MK9, I wonder if it WAS about trying to lure women in. Anyone with common sense could tell you that females wouldn’t go near that gore fest, especially with MKX being arguably the most disgustingly violent entry in the series. I wonder if it was just because they needed a universal body type for the way more detailed inner body models. The one character that doesn’t have the exact same body as everyone else, Ferra/Torr, looks fucking stupid when cut in half, and I expect the same issue with Xenomorph. If this WAS a misguided attempt to bring more women into the game, then I expect this will be resolved in MKXI, when Warner exces remind them that they have a VERY lucrative market and please don’t mess it up with experimentation. That and they’ll likely be able to spend more time individually modelling each character’s innards.

      • I wonder if it was just because they needed a universal body type for the way more detailed inner body models.

        Nah, because D’vorah (sp?) has her own unique design, along with the Predator and various other characters.

        Ed Boon was in an interview talking about empowering female characters, it’s why MKX doesn’t even have boob jiggle anymore. Basically they shrunk the female chests, removed all the female jiggle, and got rid of all the thongs. Where MK9 went overboard, MKX went in the opposite direction.

        But yeah, they weren’t going to get any additional female players with the gore.

        What would be stupid is if they attempted to remove the gore and the sexy time to try to lure in the casuals, turning it into: Mortal Kombat: Tea Time Disagreement Simulator.

      • Jesus Zamora

        D’Vorah only really had a recolored set of innards and the same body proportions as everyone else. I can’t really speak to the DLC characters, though I honestly hope that they have more work put into them, what with you having to pay extra for them and all.

        Though you do bring up a fair point with MK9. While the series always had some sexuality to its female characters, they went cheesy with MK9. MKX might just be a case of over-correction internally, trying to find what works for them. MKXI will hopefully be the game that strikes a balance that doesn’t distract either way.

        You know, I find myself wanting to play MK: Tea Time Disagreement Simulator…

      • “MKX might just be a case of over-correction internally, trying to find what works for them.”

        lol more pathetic excuses from the subtle SJW.

    • “Probably we won’t be able to remove
      everything that could offend someone. But our goal is, at least, to
      reduce that number as much as possible so that they think ‘Ok, there is
      this issue here, but it is within the limits’.”

      That quote alone should be enough to make you realize which bunch of whiny little fucktards were responsible for the removal of the butt-slap behind the scenes.

      Also, I’ve seen you on other occassions trying to excuse SJWs/feminists from being in any wrongdoing regarding censorship.

      Your mask may be starting to slip buddy. Just saying.

      • Jesus Zamora

        My MASK!? Bitch, just because I don’t see SJWs everywhere like the fucking illuminati doesn’t mean I’m one of them. Sorry I try to look for reason instead of going off the handle at the slightest issue. Personally, I’d rather deal with real issues than looking for fucking bogeymen, but if you think I give two shits about what either side of this now CLEARLY political war think, you’re out of your fucking mind.

        I just think that there’s a possibility that this was a decision made because they sincerely believe it’ll get more people in, however misguided that belief is. It wouldn’t be the first time Capcom made a stupid decision based on asinine presumptions. Resident Evil, Umbrella Chronicles & 6 come to mind, as does the complete abandonment of Megaman.

        Corporations exist for making money, and I fully expect that they’ll look back on this and say “well, that made us no money,” but if you TRULY believe that Capcom, Sony and fucking WARNER BROS. are scared of Anita Sarkeesian under the bed the way you seem to be, then perhaps you’ve not been paying attention to the fact that they need access more than the companies need some dinky 3rd tier leftist website.

        Funny, when GG started, it was much more politically agnostic and far less cynical. Sad to see it’s changing.

      • Funny, when GG started, it was much more politically agnostic and far less cynical. Sad to see it’s changing.

        I think the climate of the media constantly badgering a certain group for a year and a half (actually a bit longer) and constantly denying them outlets for communication or censoring threads or closing comment sections has created a climate of fear, anger and panic.

        It’s sadly becoming more politicized because the media has gone on for far too long unchallenged. Even if you’re a far left trans, if you support ethics in journalism you’re a misogynistic, racist rapist. Even if you’re a far left black equal rights advocate, if you believe that developers should be allowed to exercise creative freedoms, you’re a transphobic, white misogynerd.

        The media is painting broad strokes that’s doing nothing but making people absolutely angry, so it’s somewhat understandable that some people are at a breaking point.

      • Jesus Zamora

        I’ll never sit here and claim that there aren’t plenty of media outlets that are nothing more than leftist cheerleaders, even if I reject the premise of a monolithic media when there’s plenty of right-leaning outlets both online and off.

        However, that has nothing to do with this – a classic example of GG becoming the very thing they sought to fight. Maybe you disagree, but I don’t think my arguments were anything but well-reasoned and respectful, but because I don’t buy the GG orthodoxy on a couple things, I’m an SJW now?

        Everyone knows that games media and the left wing blogosphere is full of shit. I’ve said as much more often than not. However, the gaming community has developed an unhealthy paranoia. Put bluntly, we have an enemy out there that’s being backed into its echo chambers. The last thing we need is to enter into an intra-faction war and undo the progress we’ve made because some of us aren’t 100% convinced of the talking points.

      • because I don’t buy the GG orthodoxy on a couple things, I’m an SJW now?

        Yeah that “Red Scare” mentality doesn’t really help anyone.

        Put bluntly, we have an enemy out there that’s being backed into its echo chambers. The last thing we need is to enter into an intra-faction war and undo the progress we’ve made because some of us aren’t 100% convinced of the talking points.

        Totally agreed. I think a large part of the momentum in GG was lost due to the chan separation, the GGrevolt vs GG in-fighting and the arguments over political tone policing. I think staying focused on the target of preserving games is what will help most.

      • Jesus Zamora

        It’s good to see I’m not the only one who sees infighting as the problem it’s become. If we don’t start speaking with a unified voice again soon and going after PROVEN offenses instead of every conjecture that comes across the desk, we will indeed be the frothing rabble that the enemy paints us as.

      • “Bitch, just because I don’t see SJWs everywhere like the fucking illuminati doesn’t mean I’m one of them. Personally, I’d rather deal with real issues than looking for fucking bogeymen”

        Then you must be blind, or extremely short-sighted. They are everywhere in the mainstream games media. The vast majority of ‘professional’ games journalists and bloggers are agenda-pushing little cunts. Have you even opened your eyes at all in Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, Polygon, etc.? Are you closing them every time you visit One Angry Gamer’s homepage?

        ” Sorry I try to look for reason instead of going off the handle at the slightest issue.”

        Maybe. But it seems more like you went out of your way to look for and excuse SJWs/feminists from any wrongdoing. I’ve seen plenty of your posts around to suggest that. I remember the other day you replied to me a few times in another subject (R.Mika censoring I think) and you were sooooo adamant that it wasn’t SJWs/feminists, despite there now being evidence from Ono himself that it was.

        “Corporations exist for making money, and I fully expect that they’ll
        look back on this and say “well, that made us no money,” but if you
        TRULY believe that Capcom, Sony and fucking WARNER BROS. are scared of
        Anita Sarkeesian under the bed the way you seem to be, then perhaps
        you’ve not been paying attention to the fact that they need access more
        than the companies need some dinky 3rd tier leftist website.”

        See, you’re doing it again, trying to make out as if it’s nothing to do with Anita/SJWs.

        Maybe you ought to realize that artists/creators/developers/companies can be publicly pressured, harassed, bullied, doxed and shamed. This IS actually something they fear, because a bad reputation could mean lost profits in the long run, because the corrupt games media and SJWs will be hammering their games and devs and labelling them “sexists” and “misogynists” 24/7. It’s such a huge social stigma that NOBODY wants.

        Funny how you completely ignored this aspect isn’t it? Maybe you should see what happened to Matt Taylor.

        “Funny, when GG started, it was much more politically agnostic and far less cynical. Sad to see it’s changing.”

        Sad isn’t it?

        Maybe you should blame the SJW-lite and moderate little fuckwits who want to dictate how GG should be run, and how GG should reason with and accept SJW/feminist ideology into video games. And also those who keep trying to excuse SJWs/feminists from any wrongdoing…

  • Benjamin Peters

    I remember how successful the business mode of pandering to people that don’t buy your product has worked out over the ages. That’s why my ice delivery company in Siberia does so well.

  • Kate Lockwell

    Well, that’s a strange strategy. I’ll just hope for them that the people they don’t want to offend suddenly start playing video games, because I certainly won’t support the practice of self-censorship in order to please these people.

  • Motherfucking Deadpool!

    The wise words of based Vavra are relevant again

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