Hatred Lands AO Rating; Devs Worry About Getting On Xbox One, PS4

The dreaded “Adults Only” rating in the world of the ESRB is a death knell for a game… especially a game attempting to go mainstream… especially a game attempting to go mainstream that’s designed by indie developers. Well, Hatred, the perpetually controversial isometric shooter from Destructive Creations, has managed to land an AO rating.

Blues News has a quick rundown of the situation where they explain that Harted has been classified as “Adults Only” in the U.S., by the Electronic Software Ratings Board.

Destructive Creations noted on their own forum board that…

“Well, I’m not quite convinced why Hatred got AO rating while it lacks any sexual content, but it’s still some kind of achievement to have the second game in history getting AO rating for violence and harsh language only. Even if this violence isn’t really that bad and this harsh language isn’t overused,” … “I would prefer to get a standard M+ rating, because with AO we will have problems to to get to consoles in the future, but on the other hand I think you guys (our fans) would be disappointed with it.”

Mature rated games are a dime a dozen on the home consoles, but anything rated AO isn’t even likely to appear through the normal distribution outlets. As they mention, appearing on the Xbox One or PS4 would be problematic.

Games Radar has a list of “Adults Only” games, but they’re mostly all sexually oriented games.

It is strange how Hatred gets the AO rating for violence and language, yet a game like Mortal Kombat X, which shows actual human mutilation in extreme degrees, is still scheduled to appear on the Xbox One and PS4. There’s even a strong likelihood that Mortal Kombat X will be rated ‘M’ for Mature.

Someone has to break down the logic of how showing people being mutilated, ripped apart and x-rays of human insides being shredded, sliced, burned, gouged and broken is less violent than a guy running around shooting and stabbing people?

I’ll be keeping a close eye on Mortal Kombat X and see if the game gets hit with an AO rating, too. Because if one gets it so should the other.

Hatred has had a long road of controversy leading up to its release, being removed and re-added to Steam Greenlight, and not getting hit with the worst label the ESRB could hand out.

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18 thoughts on “Hatred Lands AO Rating; Devs Worry About Getting On Xbox One, PS4

  1. I’m curious to see why it got an AO rating as well, from the trailer there was nothing anywhere near as viscous as some of the x-rays from Mortal Kombat, nor anything that you wouldn’t have seen in a GTA game. On top of that the devs themselves said there wouldn’t be children in the game so I’m stumped as to what other reason there would be an AO rating.

      1. I would think so. My understanding was that after the shots across the bow the sjws already made over this game they’ve overruled the bigots.

        Either that or GOG releases it and makes a ton of money. It’s not like those Poles give a fuck. More power to them.

    1. Did you see one of the trailers they put out? Should be obvious. Put shotgun in someone’s mouth whilst they look terrified, this person hasn’t done anything wrong, and now their head is gone. Literally. Their head disappears.
      It’d be the tone of it as well. It revels in what it does in a gross way.
      Mortal Kombat’s hilarious in ways Hatred isn’t.

      1. So can you walk through each fatality here and point out the “hilarious” parts?

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u80hHuWZb_0&feature=player_detailpage

        Also, Max Payne 3 had mutilation as well, just like in Hatred — there was even loss of limbs, bleed-outs and plenty of gore. There was nothing remotely funny about watching a man get doused in gasoline while trapped in a ring of tires and set on fire to burn alive. Unless you can explain how that’s also hilarious and how it’s also less violent than Hatred?

      2. Killing bad guys has, and always will be, something people look at with indifference. Which is the case with Max Payne 3. You’re just killing innocents in Hatred because “my life is Hatred”.
        Like I said in a previous comment, its pretty obvious why its AO.
        Remember Yathzee in Mortal Kombat? Its always been a dumb joke. And a giant brown thing with 4 arms fighting a bunch of human/maybe human isn’t the same as putting a shotgun in an innocent womans mouth and removing her head. Dont act like it is.

      3. Killing bad guys has, and always will be, something people look at with indifference. Which is the case with Max Payne 3.

        You mean to tell me that killing cops and killing some innocents in Max Payne 3 somehow warrants indifference but killing cops and innocents in Hatred does not?

        Please, explain to this logic.

      4. “You mean to tell me that killing cops and killing some innocents in Max Payne 3 somehow warrants indifference”.
        Hang on, where did I say killing innocents warrants indifference? I said BAD GUYS. Don’t misrepresent what I said.

        In Max Payne its a minor part of the game with, I believe, narrative justification for what youre doing.

        In Hatred, the entire point of the game is killing innocent people because “My life is Hatred”. There is a MASSIVE difference between the two.

      5. Hang on, where did I say killing innocents warrants indifference? I said BAD GUYS.

        In Max Payne its a minor part of the game with, I believe, narrative justification for what youre doing.

        There’s an entire level dedicated to wiping out everyone in a police station. “Bad guys” even in the context of Max Payne 3 — explicitly stated in the storyline — was non-existent. It was admitted everyone was bad, some just worse than others.

        The whole point is that people are trying to use the nuance of context to justify why it’s okay in one game and not okay in the other.

        According to the rev the ESRB told them context is the reason. Why are you doing what you’re doing?

        Context makes no sense. Because it has been repeatedly mentioned that the first Postal — by every definition of the term — was a murder simulator. You could even execute people in the same way as Hatred.

        The context of the first Postal and Hatred are literally identical. Postal is not AO.

      6. “It was admitted everyone was bad”.

        You just defeated the purpose of your own argument.

        “The context of the first Postal and Hatred are literally identical. Postal is not AO.”
        They are close. But, go watch some Postal gameplay, then go watch Hatred. I haven’t watched much Postal, but its extremely crude, came out 13-ish years ago, and kinda hard to compare when you see Hatred. Are there animations in Postal where you put gun in a woman so mouth as she begs and then you kill her? I dont believe that happens in Postal.
        In postal its about killing “armed” individuals. Don’t they shoot at you regardless, in that game? Again, I haven’t watched a great deal of it. If it is the case, the difference is, again, quite obvious.
        In Hatred its anyone and everyone. I don’t know how you “advance” in Hatred, we know too little about It.

      7. Are there animations in Postal where you put gun in a woman so mouth as
        she begs and then you kill her? I dont believe that happens in Postal.

        LOL…

        Where do you think Hatred got that from? When I said Hatred has the same execution feature as Postal, I mean, literally. You go over to the person who is wounded but not dead and press the ‘Execute’ button. The Postal dude would stand over them as they beg for their life and… blow off their head. Sound familiar?

        In postal its about killing “armed” individuals. Don’t they shoot at you regardless, in that game?

        Do these marching band members look armed?

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umR1-3q-rPw

        Yep, because obviously all those people out for the parade are “armed” individuals. lol

        In Hatred its anyone and everyone. I don’t know how you “advance” in Hatred, we know too little about It.

        If you know “little” about it, how can you justify that it deserves the AO rating?

      8. “Where do you think Hatred got that from? When I said Hatred has the same execution feature as Postal, I mean, literally. You go over to the person who is wounded but not dead and press the ‘Execute’ button. The Postal dude would stand over them as they beg for their life and… blow off their head. Sound familiar?”

        That’s why I was asking. Does the camera get close to their terrified face? Or does it stay the same perspective? I’d imagine, with its old and crude aesthetic, it wouldn’t.

        “Do these marching band members look armed?”

        Did I say there are no armed people in the game? Sure didn’t. You are extremely bad at answering my questions to the point where I think I’m just being trolled. I don’t know if you’re deliberately avoiding them or what.

        Looks like I need to go to Wikipedia to get basic answers.

        And, according to Wikipedia: Contrary to first-person shooters, however, the goal is not to stay alive and just reach the next level, but to kill a given percentage of the armed NPCs on the map. Only then the exit to the next level is activated.

        “If you know “little” about it, how can you justify that it deserves the AO rating?”

        Seem the content that’s been distributed? I was stating I don’t know how you advance. Stop taking things out of context.

        “Yep, because obviously all those people out for the parade are “armed” individuals. lol”
        Never stated as such and I wont be replying going forward since it is obvious I’m talking to a 13 year old with poor reading skills.
        Sorry, but, bye.

      9. “Should be obvious.”

        Well, it’s not. And if you’ve been gaming for a decent length of time, it should be obvious to you why that is.

        “It’d be the tone of it as well. It revels in what it does in a gross way.”

        Correct me if I’m wrong here, but it seems you’re implying that doing this is somehow not a valid approach when making a piece of entertainment or art.

        Rockstar used shock and gross-out tactics when developing
        Manhunt. In fact, one could argue that many of Rockstar’s titles include elements of this. A game like Manhunt is intended to disturb, and it accomplishes that in spades, and in many ways is a great game because of it. Even with all the violent content that is featured in Manhunt (which I would contend is just as ghastly as Hatred, if not more so), the game still managed to receive the ‘Mature’ rating. Again, why was Hatred not awarded the same respect?

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGuhX5AmjuA

      10. Manhunt’s plot is you’re in a snuff film. It justifies what it does and contextualises it in a way Hatred, as far as we know, doesn’t. Hatred is “my life is Hatred lady, so sit still why I blow your head off because I’m Hatred blah blah blab”.

        “Correct me if I’m wrong here, but it seems you’re implying that doing this is somehow not a valid approach when making a piece of entertainment or art.”
        Yeah, I will correct you there. By saying you are wrong,

    2. What about the modern warfare 2 no Russian mission? Was it justified because the character was pretending to be a terrorist so he could gain their trust?

  2. “Someone has to break down the logic of how
    showing people being mutilated, ripped apart and x-rays of human
    insides being shredded, sliced, burned, gouged and broken is less
    violent than a guy running around shooting and stabbing people?”

    We’ll get the same bullshit excuse, as usual.

    “Well, it’s all about context! Mortal Kombat is an over-the-top fighting game, and it always has been. It’s gory, yes, but it’s cartoonish! Hatred on the other hand? No, no, NO! This is a realistic depiction of a mentally unstable indivual who’s sole intent is to kill innocent civilians. Unacceptable! Never mind the fact that I can go on spree killings in GTA and other open-world games. Those games have goals, and none of those goals involve killing innocent bystanders. And even if they do, they still have context! You see, you have to have context! I really like saying “context”! And that’s because it’s important! Context!”

    The people that make this argument are fucking hypocrites, but are too busy being offended to see it. And it’s funny, because it’s not just one set of hypocrites, it’s multiple sets. You’ve got one group that say Hatred is absolutely deplorable, all the while they have no problem playing games like GTA or Sleeping Dogs, and who will swear up and down that they’re not similar in any way. And then you’ve got another group making the same “context is important” argument, but these are the same folks that will turn around and completely ignore context when they feel the need to demonize games like GTA or Hotline Miami. Context either matters or it doesn’t – you can’t have it both ways.

    {sigh} It’s ridiculous that Hatred was slapped with an AO rating.

  3. Wow this game looks great! I can’t wait to get a copy and sit down with the family for some Sunday night gaming time. Can’t wait, gonna be great!

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