Hatred Removed From Steam Greenlight; So What’s The Point Of Community Votes?


Hatred

[Update: The Game has been returned to Steam Greenlight]

It really gets to me when games get axed by distribution platforms just based on the moral outrage of a few. I may not agree with the content in Destructive Creations’ Hatred, but I absolutely disagree with Valve’s decision to pull the game out of Steam Greenlight; preventing people from even having the option to vote on whether or not they would want to play the game.

As noted on Eurogamer in an update to the original post, Valve’s Doug Lombardi explained why the game was pulled from Greenlight (you can check out its former page here), saying…

"Based on what we've seen on Greenlight we would not publish Hatred on Steam. As such we'll be taking it down,"

This happened shortly after the game went live on Greenlight earlier today.

Of course, once the game did appear on Greenlight there was a torrent of articles about the “murder simulator” being allowed on Greenlight. The media hasn’t been keen on the title since its original announcement, but gamers are kind of split down the middle. Heck, even Eurogamer noted…

“With over 1300 comments appearing on its Greenlight listing in its first few hours, Hatred is certainly getting a lot of attention. Some of it is weary of the game's discomforting ultra violence aimed at innocent bystanders, while others support the developer's desire to make the game it wants to make.”

For those of you who forgot what Hatred was all about, here is the announcement trailer.

Now here’s my question: if the opening dialogue from Mr. Killer was about how people had become infected with some zombie-mutating disease and he had to wipe it out of everyone, and the game was called The Diseased, would it still have been pulled?

Does intent change the perception of the content? I mean, if a trailer was put together for GTA V showing first-person axe murdering and tons of civilians being shot in the head with a voice-over about wiping out every single person from the face of the planet, would Valve react in the same way? Would the media react in the same way?

Also, if the community wasn’t entirely against the game and a large portion of players would be willing to play it, mod it, spread it, should they be restricted from playing it at the behest of those who feel its morally wrong? What’s the point of having the community decide what does and doesn’t belong on Steam if that choice is stripped from them whenever the media feels gamers shouldn’t have a right to play a game at all?

That’s not to mention that Postal, a game released back in 1997, is identical to Hatred insofar that you can kill innocent people and police alike. The whole point of the game was to kill any and everyone – and yet, Postal is still available on Steam… right now. Hypocrisy much?

With the recent bans on GTA V from Kmart and Target in Australia, and a new petition aiming to get the game removed from store shelves in Canada, in addition to some gaming media outlets advocating the bans and calling for the censorship of games like Hatred, it’s kind of hard not to view this as an attack on the gaming industry.

Sadly it feels as if the games media do have some pull in directing the content of some developers, especially those not large enough to ignore petitions and hyper-wailing moral police from soap boxes positioned to influence the future of what gamers get to play and what they don’t.

Is this what gaming has come to? A fight between the media and the consumers? Is this now the new norm? If so, I can readily see a crash coming sooner rather than later.

[Update:] For reference, here is what the votes looked like before the game was pulled from Greenlight, courtesy of Blocker.



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  • pixel

    wtf steam

  • Jiří Dvořák

    fucking commies

  • Jess

    Sweet precedent Gabe. The next time I lay eyes on a Greenlight I have no intention of endorsing I’ll make sure I complain about it as vocally as possible.

  • 2501

    Wtf Gabe!

    You used to be cool.

  • Oh dear god! If people are offended by this video game then by all means they should boycott it, but that doesn’t mean they should get it banned for everyone else. I’m most offended that a vocal minority gets their way and screw everyone else than where anything about this game is concerned.

  • Josh Bray

    Just gives other platforms light to shine if Valve wants to start fucking up their platform. This is a disappointing precedent for consumers on steam, but I would be even more wary as a developer after this. If your game can be pulled by the whims of a few, then why publish on Steam?

  • Erthwjim

    I love how you used their own term against them

    hyper-wailing moral police

  • GotNews4Ya

    I don’t know.. I really don’t think the gaming world needs a game like this.. I really feel like we as gamers have been trying to break this view of “games making us slaughter people or horrible things” and this game will just ruin all the hard work we have done to really create a better image of gamers in general. I really don’t think the idea behind this game is a good one.. I don’t like to think I am slaughtering tons of people for no reason.. I know there is plenty of people who don’t care as much.. and to an extent I know it is just a game.. but man.. When they openly just come out and make a game about hating everyone, and just killing anyone and everything.. It ends up being viewed as a “release” for a psychopath.. or even a “Gateway” into Murder. I can see it all now.. all the news headlines after this game is released talking about how many people are talking about how it was “okay in Hatred” why is it not cool to kill my brother / sister / uncle / cousin / father / mother / girlfriend / friend / neighbor / random person / police officer.. It will be a dark moment for gaming.. I can already see it now..

    • destroy_all_monsters

      Fuck that. My favorite game of all time is Syndicate. I don’t care what people think of us. They’re horrible people.

      So we should capitulate to the terrorists? These people are no less vermin than Jack Thompson and the “Moral Majority” were.

    • Jason

      No.

      For mediums to mature, they need to be able to handle controversial stuff. Books, films, music, art, etc all deal with violence and psychopathy. They also all had to deal with idiotic moral outrage trying to blame the ills of society on them. Game are no different.

      Personally, I don’t think Hatred will be that good, because sandboxes like GTA already lets you do all that stuff. But it deserves to be judged on its merits and by the market, and not judged by some self-appointed moral gatekeepers before it even has a chance to come out.

  • Jason Mounce

    Send this article to Gaben and spam it over and over til he gets the message. He allows god damn WarZ of ALL GAMES TO RETURN TO STEAM after it was scamming everyones money and petitioned to literally be taken off, it does but quietly goes back on and under a new name soon-after. That and as pointed out here, they disallow it merely due to media publicity being negative and controversial? GTA is still a ‘controversial title’ but they know it brings in Money and warrants keeping it even if it is controversial. Postal doesn’t sell well at all but is still a forgotten- controversial game. The hypocrisy is idiotic.

  • Johannna_L

    Gabe is a little bitch. Also it doesnt matter, the game WILL be released Q2 2015 regardless of what anyone thinks!

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